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[–] M500@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Organized religion or religion in a spiritual sense? I do believe there is some higher power that created matter and the laws of physics. But I don’t believe they care or even know about us.

[–] Riccosuave@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Do you believe this for any particular reason, or just because it is psychologically reassuring? I'm not trying to be a smartass, I'm honestly curious about your perspective.

I've watched about 1000 hours of the Atheist Experience, Aron Ra, Cosmic Skeptic, Christopher Hitchens, and just about every popular religious apologist you can think of too. I've never hear a single compelling argument for creationism (I know you are talking about creation in the more macro sense, I don't think you're a young earth creationist).

The only one I've ever seen that was even worth giving serious thought is the Kalam Cosmological Argument, which I find to be deeply flawed as well, it is simply the least bad argument. So my ultimate question to you would be this: If there is a "higher power" that created the universe as we know it, but that higher power is completely indistinguishable from the laws of nature as we observe them then why believe and why care?

[–] M500@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Well I’m not opposed to the idea that we(the universe)were created by accident. Maybe we are a simulation, maybe I’m the creator of the universe and everything is just my brains imagination.

I don’t really know or put much thought into it, but I can’t just think. Matter was just there. Like the bug bag happened with nothing before it.

Like even the vacume of space is some thing.

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

So your claim is that tge universe had a beginning? To me, the universe having existed forever, and it starting to exist at some point with nothing, not even time before makes just as little sense.

Really, things existing at all makes little sense, it would make much more sense if nothing existed. But that is at odds with what I observe.