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[โ€“] Ooops@kbin.social 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Not copying the rhetoric of the right might be a good start

You mean like they did for nearly two years before that headline, while constantly losing votes because they wouldn't address the imaginary problem Germans are brain-washed to believe in.

I would have loved to see a proper "we don't have an immigration problem but one of integration"... but then they would be below 5% in the polls already.

[โ€“] Don_alForno@feddit.de 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't think so. All of the parties failed to even try to paint a positive picture of immigration in those past years, or at least clearly communicate the necessity of it: Germany alone needs 400.000 additional immigrants across all levels of qualification a year to keep up the workforce and keep the social systems running, and we're talking about turning people away. If all you do is stand by and watch instead of speaking up, of course people only have the one narrative to follow.

[โ€“] Ooops@kbin.social -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

All of the parties failed to even try to paint a positive picture of immigration in those past years, or at least clearly communicate the necessity of it: Germany alone needs 400.000 additional immigrants across all levels of qualification a year to keep up the workforce and keep the social systems running

And where did you get this information? From the parties that "failed to communicate" it for years perhaps, who have told us about their plans in their programs, then wrote them down for the coaltion agreement?

They told us we need immigration. They told us they wanted to make immigration easier for needed workes. And they told us expolicitly their plans. And they lost votes for it, as those plans were drowned out by right propaganda about illegal immigrants (has someone already found those imaginary millions yet)?

They also for example told us explicitly about future plans in transitioning industry and energy. And they again lost votes for it, as every moron chose to believe the narrative (from increasing totally green coal use, to prohibiting heating) instead,

Because the majority gives a fuck about information. They mostly listen to right-wing trash media.

What do German politicians transparently communicating their plans and German politicians universally hated have in common? They are the same people... As they are the ones targeted by desinformation the most and Germans are majorily too stupid to not fall for propaganda every single time.

[โ€“] Don_alForno@feddit.de 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And where did you get this information?

From a study/news article about the study, not from the government.

Paper is patient, and most people don't read programs or the bpb. Those who do already tend to be on the side of reason.

Propaganda needs to be constantly debunked. Every time Merz says something dumb, somebody needs to stand up and call out his bs. And the reply needs to be catchy enough to make the headline right next to his nonesense. Playing fair and not offending will not work.

I refuse to believe people want to follow right wing misanthropes inherently. They just hear their short, easy to mistake for the truth messages 20 times a day. And if there even is a progressive voice replying, it's convoluted and beating around the bush. "Wtf, what are you talking about, illegal immigrants? We have some 50.000 of those, chances are most of the other 80 Million people have never even seen one." Why do I never hear anything like that? Not even on public media.

[โ€“] Ooops@kbin.social 0 points 9 months ago

But isn't that part of my point? Nobody would care about Merz' daily bullshit claim, if not for massive media attention. Only very few would view AfD morons as serious politicians if not for the media giving them a platform (one full of softball questions and zero criticism for their bullshit).

I don't want to pretend that the governemnt is perfect in their communication. Yet those actually communicating the most are also the ones completely mispresented constantly.

And simply blaming the government for a lack of communication is too short-sighted when we have a media that is on one-hand over-amplifying right-wing propaganda and underrepresenting government communication.

You are right that propaganda needs to be constantly debunked. But why is that a government only job with media having no part of it, while every single sentence of known populist at some side event is distributed two dozen times within an hour.

How can we not address that problem and pretend the government would just need to start communicating?