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Trump popularity. (lemy.lol)
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[–] Maladius@lemmy.world 44 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Most Trump supporters just believe every negative story about him is a government conspiracy created to try to keep him out of power.

The lawsuits, the criminal charges, the COVID deaths... They think they're all lies of the liberal media.

How do you fight that?

[–] krakenfury@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Offer them something better. They support Trump because he makes them feel:

  1. Smart for cutting through all the lies to get to the truth.
  2. Part of something bigger than themselves.
  3. Victimized/marginalized (few things are more empowering than being wronged).

The opposition has to overcome these powerful emotions. Currently, they are kinda banking on a decisive victory in court. That might be enough to dispel some of the enchanted, but will only encourage the most fervent. Worse, if it doesn't get him locked up or disqualify him from running, it's going to increase his power.

The best way to fight it is with a candidate that can beat him. I hope Biden is capable of pulling it off a second time.

Besides Trump himself, there are systemic issues that we should be fighting over. The electoral collage system is a huge problem that isn't going away. 2000 and 2016 elections won by candidates with fewer votes.

Gerrymandering is also a big reason why he has as much support as he enjoys. Honestly, I might not care as much if he were president if Congress and State legislatures weren't so out of wack with our population distributions. Representative government my ass. Land is straight up voting and it should piss us all off way more.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The best way to fight it is with a candidate that can beat him.

In 2016 that candidate was Bernie

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

If only Biden backed out, their win would be guaranteed

[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 14 points 10 months ago

Having a functioning brain?

[–] ALostInquirer@lemm.ee 7 points 10 months ago

If there was a grand government conspiracy to keep Trump from power, why didn't they keep him from power the first time? And why has this conspiracy been so ineffective at disappearing or otherwise fast-tracking a baseless trial against him to convict and imprison him? Why hasn't the CIA or FBI simply taken him out, given their historic track record of taking out foreign or domestic politically problematic persons?

What conspiracy could be so ineffective as to permit him to not only rise to power, but to attain it for a time, and to try to reclaim it?

[–] randomaside@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 10 months ago

It's difficult to trust anything when you firmly believe the source of the well is tainted. There's a religiosity to it.