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Churches campaigning for Trump? Take away their tax-exempt status.

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[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It takes little effort. You're saying to not do it, while also not suggesting anything to do. Your suggestion has an even lower chance of success than the OP, so if anyone shouldn't be listened to it's you.

Collect evidence and submit it. Also work on getting better elected officials, unionizing, protesting, and whatever else you can do. If your suggestion is to stop doing something and not replacing it with something more effective then you should just keep your mouth shut.

[–] IHasAHat@startrek.website -3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

How about we throw a bunch of birthday candles in the nearest lake?

And remember, you can't tell me that's stupid and unproductive because by your logic, that would clearly mean you are advocating for doing nothing.

Are you starting to see how nonsense your argument is?

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No, their logic is that we should pursue the thing with the highest chance of success regardless of whether that chance is very good or not. Reporting to the IRS might only have a 1% chance of success, but that's better than nothing's 0% and birthday candles in a lake's 0.00001% chance.

[–] IHasAHat@startrek.website -1 points 10 months ago

It doesn't have a 1% chance, it has essentially a 0% chance. The IRS has NEVER gone after an established church, and they never will because of the massive can of worms it would open. While astronomically speaking, nothing is impossible, there comes a point where something is so improbable that attempting it is wasted effort. In this instance, it distracts from people coming up with actual solutions because they're led to believe that the false solution is worth pursuing.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 months ago

I listed several other things people should also be doing. However, the IRS thing does have some amount of utility even if it does nothing at the moment. The IRS doesn't have enough employees (on purpose) to look into everything, but if they get enough complaints and enough evidence they may. It at least creates a paper trail of they try anything bigger.