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A New York-bound Virgin Atlantic flight was canceled just moments before takeoff last week when an alarmed passenger said he spotted several screws missing from the plane’s wing.

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[–] ItsMeSpez@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

In the end I recognize that I am not the expert on these matters in any way. I have no idea what a properly maintained aircraft looks like and pretty much have to trust the people who are paid to know these things. If you're uncomfortable with something, by all means mention it, but it's folly to assume you know better or can make even decent assumptions about the maintenance of a plane unless you are an aircraft mechanic.

[–] rusticus@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

You didn't really answer or address my question. If you walk into a restaurant and see a rat running by table #2, do you just assume that "the restaurant experts" know better than you and it is safe to eat the food?

[–] Raxiel@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

Is there a ginger twink in the kitchen?

[–] lingh0e@sh.itjust.works -4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

By all means, if you are concerned about something on the plane, please mention it to a member of the flight crew.

That said, you've used a poor analogy.

There's a difference between understanding the significance of a rat in a restaurant and understanding the significance of some bolts missing from a piece of fuselage... which is the point of the comment you're glibly replying to.

Most people understand the concept of rats being harbingers of illness, but most people don't understand the finer mechanics of powered flight. We put our trust in the flight crew to have that greater understanding, that they won't put our OR their lives in danger by cutting corners. Chances are good that if the flight crew isn't concerned, you don't need to be either.

[–] Evia@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

No but we do know the basic function of screws: holding shit together. The absence of screws implies that shit is not held together fully. Is it still sufficient to fly? Maybe. But the presence of screw holes implies that somebody in the development process thought them necessary and now they're not there.

Sure, it's likely safe in the same was that the restaurant rat is likely not carrying a plague. But it's not guaranteed and I'm not willing to be the one to test it

[–] rusticus@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

They why did they ground the plane if they weren't concerned? And then replace the bolts that you claim aren't necessary? Are they cosmetic bolts? lol.

[–] lingh0e@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 months ago

I didn't say anything about that plane, and I didn't say anything about bolts being unnecessary. I was simply responding to the other guys bad analogy because he kept demanding someone answer his question.

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 10 months ago

but most people don't understand the finer mechanics of powered flight.

Pretty sure "are all the bolts in their holes" is more of an "I can put IKEA furniture together pretty well" level and not "finer details of the mechanics of flight" level

[–] Evia@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Sure, this is why the passenger raised the issue to make sure someone responsible was aware of it and could make that safety judgement. And clearly they were right to do so if the pilot (or whoever) grounded the plane.