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[–] pizzatime@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

he's not wrong though. like, the mass shooting yesterday was something like the 340th so far this year? the place is fucking nuts

[–] BurtsBS@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] pizzatime@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

hmmm so what, only like 20 then? you're right, that's absolutely an acceptable amount of mass shootings in the first half of the year.

totally normal and something every country experiences. my bad.

[–] BurtsBS@lemm.ee -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And of those remaining "only like 20", how many were random acts of violence?

We're so close to getting to the infinitesimally small statistical likelihood of this happening.

[–] pizzatime@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

holy fuck the copium here is pathetic. is this honestly what people tell themselves in order to feel ok about gun violence?

"of those remaining" "take out the gang related shootings" like holy fuck you realize this is an epidemic right? bro if I'm breaking down the different mass shootings into tiers that's a fuckin problem. 1 mass shooting, regardless of your arbitrary criteria for what it takes to actually qualify as one that matters is too many. there's no other argument to make there.

the discussion isn't about what you tell yourself to feel safe. it's about the perception other countries have looking at it. the mentality you're displaying is just contributing to it: you're all fucking nuts lol.

[–] BurtsBS@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago

There is no discussion lol. There is my ability to defend myself and nobody's ability to take that away irrespective of how many lunatics exist.

Regarding the perception from other countries, lol. If you want to live in crippling fear for an entirely unlikely situation to find yourself in, then go for it and don't come to the US. We don't ever think about you guys.

[–] BurtsBS@lemm.ee -4 points 1 year ago

Oh and when you're done with that, remove cities too.

[–] coffeekomrade@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Now filter that by suicide and crime/gang related, and you will realize that the type of Maas shootings the public concerns itself about (school shootings, mall shootings etc) are a very small portion of gun violence and not as common as the media portrays them.

That measurement is ANY instance where 3 or more people are killed or injured, the motivation or background is completely removed from the data.

[–] pizzatime@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

wait... do you really think that filtering mass shootings by use case makes the whole thought of living/visiting America a safer one? lmao

normalize it however you wantz you do you, but the rest of the world looks at this shit like wtf is going on over there?

[–] coffeekomrade@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

All if the data is way more nuanced than you are willing to admit. You are very unlikely to get shot going about your daily life in america, or visiting. Just because the media hypes it up doesn't mean Americans fear for their lives everyday. You would be way more likely to get shot in Brazil, Guatemala, Mexico, Columbia, or by suicide by firearm in Canada, Australia or Germany