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TenForward: Where Every Vulcan Knows Your Name

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[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website 65 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I've heard it described as "competency porn" before

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 30 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It absolutely is. I got into the West Wing for the same reason. It's very satisfying to watch good people be good at their jobs in important situations

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 19 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It’s a crying shame that our real life government will almost certainly never reflect the level of competence, effectiveness, and morality portrayed in WW :(

[–] GoodbyeBlueMonday@startrek.website 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Says, “fuckity bye,” in The Thick Of It

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Oh wow, I've never compared the two before, but you're absolutely right.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 16 points 10 months ago

You’ll also see a ton of TNG and DS9 guest stars on WW. Someone working on that show was obviously a big fan.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It so good. Tangentially, that was one of the reasons I LOVED the Rogue Squadron books when I was a kid - it’s just a bunch of normal pilots who are really fucking skilled, and are generally good at what they do, but at the same time they don’t magic problems away with “just use the force”. Antilles doesn’t use the force; instead, he just uses incredibly good spatial reasoning and physical coordination in concert with decades of combat flight experience in some of the most harrowing and unbalanced battles the galaxy had seen in his lifetime, and that made him one of the absolute best pilots in the galaxy for a good portion of his career.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

He had to have force powers! How else did he and Biggs get reincarnated into every single Final Fantasy world?

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 7 points 10 months ago

I thought about this in the context of RPGs before. Some of my peers seem to enjoy the slapdash chaos of four idiots stumbling through a problem. I'm just like that's my work day. Can I get a fantasy of four competent people solving problems effectively and without war crimes please?

[–] Raxiel@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Normally I'd agree, but I only just watched the TNG episode where they fucked up the prime directive so badly that a bunch of primitives declared (the) Picard a god.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 6 points 10 months ago

I believe that is too make a fundamental point, originally made by Claude Levi Strauss (not the jeans guy), about exploration.

The sadness of exploration is that you fundamentally can't undo first contact. Once it's made everything changes.

That episode shows this and under scribes the necessity of the prime directive and why it is there in the first place. Even with the best intentions one can destroy the fabric of society of an entire civilization.

The other interesting though this episode evokes is the question weather we are ready at this moment. It holds a mirror to us imagining to be space explorers, but how would we cope today?

[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

didn't Picard let himself get hit by a spear or something to prove he wasn't one though? pretty sure he was like "fuckin OW. see? SEE? DAMNIT to SHIT that hurts."

[–] Raxiel@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

That's the one. A noble gesture that might have been avoided by simply having someone on watch for natives during the repairs to the observation post, or by keeping the injured alien sedated, under observation or even isolated in sick bay.

Unfortunately the plot required then to be remarkably careless and unobservant.