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[–] Wilziac@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The problem comes when conservatives see the rainbow flag (or any of the other numerous pride flags) as a direct attack on their religion. I grew up in a very conservative area of a very red state, and I can tell you from personal experience that an attack on their religion will feel like a personal attack against them. They might be flying the thin blue line flag as a "fuck your feelings" flag, but it's likely because they see any pride flag as a "fuck your religion" flag.

This really stems from the larger issue of tying religion and politics together; now they can view any challenges to their political views as a challenge to their religious views. One thing Christianity is very good at is building a victim complex and that Jesus/ the church is the most important thing in this life or the next, and that preconditions their followers to believe that they will have to dig in harder in the face of adversity.

I think the real key is to make everyone realize that freedom of religious is the same as freedom from religion as well. Once we can all get on the same page that making something legal and available (like women's healthcare) is not the same as a government endorsement and still allows people to not use the service. Getting over that hurdle might take away a huge arm of the right-wing propaganda machine (allowing priests and ministers to give political messages from the pulpit) and might help the wheels of government to turn a little smoother.

[–] aniki@lemm.ee 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Conservatives will breathlessly tell you that we're a christian nation and that they dont want separation of church and state. They actively want yallqueda. They don't care about facts, logic, or moral consistency, and they will kill you dead rather than change their viewpoint the slightest bit.

[–] Archer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Yep, so reasoning with them is, and always will be, a trap. You have to legislate against them