this post was submitted on 29 Jan 2024
1004 points (87.4% liked)

Political Memes

5507 readers
2076 users here now

Welcome to politcal memes!

These are our rules:

Be civilJokes are okay, but don’t intentionally harass or disturb any member of our community. Sexism, racism and bigotry are not allowed. Good faith argumentation only. No posts discouraging people to vote or shaming people for voting.

No misinformationDon’t post any intentional misinformation. When asked by mods, provide sources for any claims you make.

Posts should be memesRandom pictures do not qualify as memes. Relevance to politics is required.

No bots, spam or self-promotionFollow instance rules, ask for your bot to be allowed on this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social -5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Not sure what you're referring to. Citation?

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I mean the supposed “good guy” president is currently giving tons of weapons to help people kill a bunch of innocent babies, so you can miss me with that shit

Are we supposed to go Yay, the economy is doing great so we will forgive all the fucking innocent, people you’re killing?

I shouldn’t have to say this, but you don’t support anyone at all who wants to commit genocide.

At the end of the day, it doesn’t matter how any fucking thing else goes, if they are supporting, killing, innocent babies

[–] acceptable_pumpkin@lemmy.world -4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This tired argument again. So what’s your proposal? Throw away your vote on a 3rd party candidate this election cycle? Not vote?

So if Trump wins, do you honestly believe things would be better? Nothing will change in Israel, except we’d have all sorts of new humanitarian problems across the globe.

[–] Kentifer@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If Biden loses, it will be because not enough people were convinced to vote for him. So if dems want to prevent a Trump presidency, the smart move probably would be (or would have been, maybe, since y'all think it's too late) for Biden to step down and endorse a Dem who has not openly supported Israel's current campaign. That is, if they think that those voters are necessary to win. If they think those voters can be written off and they'll still win, let 'em try. No politician is owed a vote simply because they are the incumbent, though. Nor are they owed the votes of people who are displeased with their work. They hoping that everyone will just fall in line on election day. What if that doesn't happen? Do you think the future of our country is something that octogenarians should be gambling with?

[–] acceptable_pumpkin@lemmy.world -4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Same naive or shill arguments. Look beyond your hatred of Biden and see what is at stake with a Trump presidency.

Unfortunately the support for Israel is common across most of our elected representatives for better or worse. I’m all for trying to get someone more progressive and younger in as the Democrat candidate, but the reality is that it will almost certainly be Biden vs Trump. Given that reality, voting 3rd party or not voting will only help Trump, so unless that’s your plan, that is in effect what will happen.

[–] Kentifer@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

I can do that too: LoOk bEyOnD YoUr FeAr Of TrUmP.

Would love to know who I'm shilling for. They owe me money.

[–] drdabbles@lemmy.world -5 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social -3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Thanks for the citation, marginal income tax rates going down for the highest percentage is an interesting data point, but It hardly refutes my point as there is no analysis there regarding which party those changes came from. I think there was a northwestern study that showed that politicians in general care about issues that wealthy people care about that would better illustrate your point, but I think both of these are more examples of regulatory capture and a system that requires donors to elect candidates, than it is evidence that the left and right share values.

My statements that the left is far more likely to tax the wealthy, and that they have wildly different values still stand.

I'm a troll because I asked you for more information to understand your ambiguous claim? Yeah okay pal. 🙄

[–] drdabbles@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You're a troll because you're still pretending not to know documented history. You know each of those tax rates had years net to them. Guess what you could do if you had an iota of curiosity in you....

The US democratic party is just as happy to cut taxes for the rich as the republican party. They're also just as happy to cut spending on social welfare programs.

[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social -5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I can't read your mind, unpleasant one, nor am I aware of all of documented history/historical data despite what you might think of me. Hence, asking for more information.

The US democratic party is just as happy to cut taxes for the rich as the republican party. They’re also just as happy to cut spending on social welfare programs.

Sometimes yes, sometimes no. Look at what they vote for and you will see a noticeable difference between Democrats and Republicans. Claims that both sides are the same are simply not true.

[–] drdabbles@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

nor am I aware of all of documented history/historical data

Then don't make claims about which party does what. It's that simple. You made the claim, now you say you aren't aware of easily found data. Vibes don't really change facts.