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Boys and men from generation Z are more likely than older baby boomers to believe that feminism has done more harm than good, according to research that shows a “real risk of fractious division among this coming generation”.

On feminism, 16% of gen Z males felt it had done more harm than good. Among over-60s the figure was 13%.

The figures emerged from Ipsos polling for King’s College London’s Policy Institute and the Global Institute for Women’s Leadership. The research also found that 37% of men aged 16 to 29 consider “toxic masculinity” an unhelpful phrase, roughly double the number of young women who don’t like it.

“This is a new and unusual generational pattern,” said Prof Bobby Duffy, director of the Policy Institute. “Normally, it tends to be the case that younger generations are consistently more comfortable with emerging social norms, as they grew up with these as a natural part of their lives.”

Link to study: https://www.kcl.ac.uk/news/masculinity-and-womens-equality-study-finds-emerging-gender-divide-in-young-peoples-attitudes

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -5 points 10 months ago (3 children)

If you pay me to answer your poll, I'll answer it however you want me to.

[–] anytimesoon@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Of course not. Why would I care about telling the truth as long as I was getting paid?

[–] TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Of course not. Why would I care about telling the truth as long as I was getting paid?

So is it just the men who are lying 'to get paid', or are the women too?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago

I didn't say they were lying to get paid, I said if someone paid me, I would answer however they wanted me to answer. I speak for no one but myself.

[–] iAmTheTot@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

You just said you'd answer it however they want you to. The way they want you to is truthfully.

[–] undercrust@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

LOL, this dude's been lucky enough to never read a strategically worded political poll apparently.

All polls are inherently biased in their wording. Almost no poll-makers are non-partisan, and the people most likely to complete polls are often the most biased.

Statistics baybeee! They'll tell you whatever you want if you structure your intake datum properly!

[–] TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

LOL, this dude’s been lucky enough to never read a strategically worded political poll apparently.

So why did women and men respond completely differently, if not because... they feel that way?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I think you know what I meant.

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What you meant is being communicated clearly. Why you think it’s some sort of conspiracy against big feminism or some shit is the confusing part.

They just want you to answer the poll legitimately.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Then why are they paying people to respond?

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

So they respond.

If you don't pay people then you're only going to get people who are really enthusiastic about it to respond. If you actually compensate them for their time then people will take time out of their day to talk about something they probably don't care about.

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 months ago

Id say to make a group of people generally averse to participating in such polls, participate.

Why do people participate in any such polls? Because they think their opinion is important and want it heard, or because they get something. Market researchers usually give test groups their products for free or at a discount. Researchers pay people to participate in studies. Most humans don’t do things without motivation.

[–] iAmTheTot@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago

No, I don't. You said you'd do whatever they want if they paid you, then immediately said you wouldn't do it truthfully if they paid you to answer truthfully. It's nonsensical.

[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Then why are boomers immune to the pollster's secret agenda?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago

I don't remember saying they had a secret agenda.

[–] astral_avocado@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Good polling can be formated in a way to weed out people giving nonsense answers, it's like the first thing you learn about polling in sociology or psychology, how to extract quality data.

[–] bedrooms@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago

But they didn't tell you how they wanted you to answer, I guess...