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[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Dude, in this example you're the employer stealing from the worker!

The only thing wrong here is people that are unable to admit that what they're doing has consequences on the people who created the media they're pirating and using mental gymnastic like I've never seen before to justify their choice and to feel morally justified to do it.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Separate example. Ignore everything else we've been talking about. I'm trying to illustrate where you stand on morality.

Would it be wrong to steal from the till?

I suspect you'd say yes, which means we have fundamental, irreconcilable differences in how we view the entire concept of morality. Which then, relating back to piracy, means we will never see eye to eye because we disagree about the most fundamental aspects of the argument.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's an irrelevant example in this conversation because you're reversing the roles.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's not related to piracy at all, it's just an illustration of your personal views. There are no roles. It's not an analogy.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Then in this case I would tell you that taking the money from the till also makes you a thief because you're getting an unverified amount of money on which you didn't pay taxes and there are legal means to get the money you're owed.

Laws would agree with me and if you want to live in society then I'm sorry to tell you that it's something we can't do without.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Like I thought, we just have entirely different worldviews at an extremely fundamental level. There's no seeing eye to eye because we're approaching it differently.