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[–] sabaku_no_gaara@monyet.cc 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Can someone who has grasped the situation of today Meta joining Fediverse via Threads explain me if it's a bad thing or a good thing?

Some say it's bad because Meta can easily access data of all us here on Lemmy/Mastodan/Kbin and our content can appear in their instance which they can monetize it for free.

Some say it's good because it draws more people to Fediverse and thereby more activity on our instances.

[–] cendawanita@monyet.cc 3 points 1 year ago

if you have the patience: https://privacy.thenexus.today/should-the-fediverse-welcome-surveillance-capitalism/

this is genuinely a good summary of the implications of Threads, but if you have any questions I can have a crack at it.

On the privacy thing, you have to remember, it's not apple-to-apple comparison, it's an apple-to-oranges. what your server needs to have from you in order the service you, is not at all the same as what meta does do as a rule, even as you leave the platforms. AP is quite leaky though, no doubt (i've raised this separately on kbin.social), but it's not the same issue, and is being worked on, because federation means someone is working on a solution somewhere.

but basically the contention is mainly on 3.5 areas:

  • privacy and surveillance - as above
  • market domination of open source standards - ask anyone running their own mailserver these days what's their rate of success sending anything to gmail or Office365 addresses (a lot of my work involve african IP addresses and institutions and they really kena)
  • the protection of minority groups, both from infra pov as well as modding pov - meta famously do not give a shit; many ppl in fedi are from minority identities (2017-18 wave for example got onto mastodon because it was available as trolls attacking queer ppl got worse on twitter). infra pov is related to the privacy question; but smaller instances at least can jaga their members better and boot out haters and defederate from instances who won't control their members. this is the modding pov that is a critical difference from meta, which brings us to point 3.5
  • capacity - small instances like this for example, got admin and mods who need to sleep. if trolls coming from diff timezones, how? belum lagi touch on traffic capacity issue.

sekian timakacih

[–] rakyat@monyet.cc 2 points 1 year ago

The only thing I can say is people on mastodon has been squabbling over this particular topic for a long while