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I still prefer nalgene bottles. They're cheap, indestructible, dishwasher safe, and aren't a pound of loud metal to carry around when empty.
But in their case, dishwasher safe means safe for the bottle, not for your endocrine system.
They've been BPA free since 2008... So... Plus I've heard they're finding lead leaching into water from vacuum sealed metal bottles. Can't win.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/02/200218182202.htm
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/01/08/health/bottled-water-nanoplastics-study-wellness/index.html
BPA isn't the only problem with plastic. It's plastic itself that is the problem.
Gonna start only drinking from my hands
Switch to goat bladders.
Can I use sheep instead? I can't get as good goat out here
I mean, plastic is not the only thing you can make a bottle out of. Metal or glass could be appropriate options, perhaps.
Glass breaks, metal has the aforementioned lead problems. I shall create a water pouch from the bladder of a steer.
It shouldn't be that hard to figure out if there's lead in a metal bottle I think, but I see your point for sure. It can be hard to find non-terrible stuff.
Glass is much better because it has no taste. I would expect people to care about that if they use it all day. How often do you break a glass bottle? That's the thickness of glass you need.
My grandfather has a glass Gatorade bottle he still reuses. That's the kind of shit I expect from today's hipsters. Do they even retro bro?
I'd honestly love a glass bottle if it doesn't break. The only downsides are weight and fragility. To be fair I've never tried. But I've smacked my water bottles against doorframes while in my backpack, dropped them on rocks while hiking, etc. It's gonna get knocked around. I'd be concerned about getting soaked with water and shards of glass everywhere.
I broke 3 glass water bottles (they even had the little rubber sleeves to try and protect them) before I gave up and settled for stainless steel. Twice I broke them in the gym. Really awkward trying to clean up glass and water without causing a scene.
You are buying crappy water bottles. How often do you break a beer bottle? Those are much thicker than crappy water bottles. Acqua Panna bottles are even thicker.
I've never broken either one unless it fell on cement. Use cheaper glass bottles and stop dropping your bottles on cement.
I don’t break beer bottles because I don’t drink beer, especially not at the gym? But last I checked I see broken beer bottles all the time. I’m talking about refillable 24oz glass water bottles with slightly wider mouths for drinking quickly while working out and easier cleaning.
And I’m not dropping them on cement. :( That’s wonderful for you that you don’t drop things, but some people do so those of us buy more durable products. I’m not sure why you’re so aggressive about it.
I'm a big fan of the single wall stuff. It works pretty well for water carrying at least. For hot and cold stuff you could always add a cozy. Certainly not as effective but no lead!
On the other hand, I dream of the day when I make my own wax lined leather bottle like the days of old
It seems to be about the lead welding they use to bind the parts together. So as long as it's a single piece of metal with no joints, I guess it'd be fine. I just want a water carrier, doesn't need to keep things hot or cold. I'm becoming jaded with hearing about how all my very basic household items are actually killing me.
Dat Glass
Heavy and fragile. Fine for around the house but a poor choice for throwing in a gym bag and should not be used near pools or other bodies of water where broken glass is an invisible hazard.
What're the lids mad out of huh?
Death!
Still even if you store it sideways at all times, you're still reducing plastic contact/leaching by what, 95%? Or more like 100% if you use a glass straw and store it upright.
Can you link anything for lead getting into the water? I'd be interested. Everything I've read about it (with respect to the Stanleys) says it's virtually impossible to be in contact with any lead containing bit unless you've purposely damaged the bottom and are basically licking it. One of the quoted experts was says depending on where you are in the US, your tap water is a much more likely vector of lead exposure.
I can't, I've heard it in passing, so very well might've just been some doomer bullshit or sensationalizing the facts. It seems that it'd be unnecessary for them to use lead at all in the creation of a drinking implement, but I'm no material scientist. I guess I'll have to look into it more.
I still have a nalgene that was made in '97. the lid snapped, but their lifetime warranty really is lifetime, they sent me a new one free of charge when I reached out to them.
Mine rolled off a >100ft cliff once. I climbed down to retrieve it and it was still perfectly intact. Still using it to this day.
I was showing the guys at work in a warehouse how indestructible my nalgene was, I put it against a barrier drove a forklift against it. It just left a small dent when it popped back to shape. Still have that bottle.