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[–] uis@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So you want to say killing Navalny in prison is ok?

[–] cogman@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Read the username on the picture. The "rights" discussed are the right to own guns.

But here's the thing, a tyrannical government doesn't let the opposition out of jail. Curtailing rights is a dumb way to look at things because that doesn't happen.

Consider the January 6th insurrectionists. Should any one of them be allowed to own a firearm? No. It's not tyrannical to think that.

Should they be allowed to vote? Yes.

Should they be thrown in prison forever? No.

Rightwing black and white definitions are stupid, don't fall for them. It's not "always the case" that someone losing a right is sufficient for a tyrannical government.

Navalny shouldn't have been thrown in prison in the first place. It wasn't his loss of access to guns that made it possible for Putin to murder him in prison.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The "rights" discussed are the right to own guns.

Maybe context was about one specific right, but in Russia prisoners can't communicate with outside world. The only way for Navalny to communicate was filing lawsuits. Because when lawsuit is filed he can talk with his lawyer and can say during court.

Should they be allowed to vote? Yes.

You forgot be elected. In Russia even if you only were in prison, but now isn't, you still can't be elected. You simply cannot get into ballot, so nobody can vote for you.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago

That sounds kind of familiar