this post was submitted on 18 Feb 2024
503 points (96.3% liked)

World News

39165 readers
2190 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News !news@lemmy.world

Politics !politics@lemmy.world

World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Bangladeshi residents and others in Monfalcone say decisions to prohibit worship at cultural centres and banning burkinis at the beach is part of anti-Islam agenda

The envelope containing two partially burned pages of the Qur’an came as a shock. Until then, Muslim residents in the Adriatic port town of Monfalcone had lived relatively peacefully for more than 20 years.

Addressed to the Darus Salaam Muslim cultural association on Via Duca d’Aosta, the envelope was received soon after Monfalcone’s far-right mayor, Anna Maria Cisint, banned prayers on the premises.

“It was hurtful, a serious insult we never expected,” said Bou Konate, the association’s president. “But it was not a coincidence. The letter was a threat, generated by a campaign of hate that has stoked toxicity.”

Monfalcone’s population recently passed 30,000. Such a positive demographic trend would ordinarily spell good news in a country grappling with a rapidly declining birthrate, but in Monfalcone, where Cisint has been nurturing an anti-Islam agenda since winning her first mandate in 2016, the rise has not been welcomed.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 16 points 9 months ago (2 children)

How is burkini different from a swimming suit that would warrant banking them from indoor pools?

[–] Hubi@feddit.de 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

You usually use the public shower before entering the pool and wearing a burkini in there kinda defeats the point. For the same reason you're not allowed to wear anything other than regular swimwear.

[–] mmcintyre@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't understand how wearing a burkini defeats the point of the shower. A burkini is swimwear.

[–] stevecrox@kbin.run 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

The shower before a pool is to ensure people aren't entering the pool coated in dirt (e.g. sweat, hair, dead skin, etc..).

The chemicals in a pool are designed to bind to that dirt and kill any bacteria introduced.

There is a limit to the chemicals you can add to a pool (before it hurts humans) and once the amount has activated you need to drain the pool and refill it.

Swimming pools hold crazy amounts of water which is also really expensive to heat up, so pools want to do that as little as possible.

Clothing interfers with cleaning your body, so people entering near fully clothed (e.g. like a Burkina) will likely introduce more dirt into the pool.

That translates into increased costs for swimming pools or pools which maintain the old schedule and just operate unsafely.

This is all based on owning a hot tub and learning how to maintain it.

Hopefully this also explains why it doesn't matter people enter the sea fully clothed

[–] mmcintyre@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Dude, I own a pool. What do you think a burkini is made out of, wool?

[–] stevecrox@kbin.run 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

You seem to be intentionally missing the point, but to reiterate..

You shower before entering a pool to wash the dirt from your body off (your cleaning yourself).

The more of your body covered the less effective that shower is.

Ideally everyone would be naked in the shower, but there are probably outfits which increasingly render the shower less and less effective (e.g. speedos are better than shorts, etc .).

It would not surprise me if a Burkina covered so much that the cleaning shower is rendered pointless

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Everything here is wishful thinking. Ain't nobody showering. People jump straight into the pool.

A pool is a giant chlorine bath. If a shower right before jumping in would make a difference someone would need to not have showered for multiple days in advance. Which is a bigger problem by itself.

It's a giant non issue and you're grasping at straws.

[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 9 months ago

Is there any data to show that the amount of extra dirt potential is actually enough to worry about? Seems like only a fraction of the people using the pool would be wearing them, and the end result would be no worse than a child who sneezed a booger in it.

Idk man, I understand the point you’re trying to make, but it all seems like thinly veiled bullshit to me (the law, not your words).

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

The more of your body covered the less effective that shower is.

No one showers before going in a public pool. You are right that it would be hygenic but it's not done by anyone. Furthermore elderly wear long sleaved swimsuits that are functionally the same as a birkini. The only difference is the hair covering. A hair covering improves hygiene of a public pool by not having stray hairs floating around in the same way food workers are required to wear hair nets.

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social -2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yes? No? Maybe?

Do you know what they’re made of?

Without looking it up?

Cause I sure as hell don’t

[–] mmcintyre@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Of course I looked it up, I'm not about to get on here and spew bullshit like some ignorant jerkwad.

[–] Nighed@sffa.community 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I'm not sure they ever empty most pools do they? They just continuously filter the water and keep adding chemicals?

[–] Cinner@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

He's saying if someone adds 10 gallons of chlorine instead of 5 depending on amount of water the pool holds...

Which shouldn't happen. The guy owns a hot tub and is extrapolating that to pool water maintenance. You test the water every few days and see exactly where your levels are, and you know how much of what chemicals you need to add.

Draining and heating pools has zero to do with a burkini. I think he just wants to argue the more fabric = more risk for contaminants introduced but went about it all the wrong way.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] febra@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And what’s wrong with that? How does that make it unhygienic

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

It makes it more unhygienic because there's more fabric that carries dirt, sweat, whatever