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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Very true.

Western legal systems are based not on jailing criminals but on keeping the innocent out of jail. This does result in more criminals roaming free but I'll take that a hundred times over the alternative

[–] Moggy@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The hell they are. Getting accused of ANYTHING in America VERY quickly becomes a matter of providing proof that you are innocent. And not having said proof will probably lead to a guilty verdict. Get a GOOD lawyer. Prosecution will basically fuck off if they have nothing but accusations and your defense lawyer is annoying enough to deal with. Otherwise they will waste as much of your time as they have to in order to make you think it won't end until you admit to something you didn't do. They'll even offer to reduce the false charges. Western legal systems are a fucking joke.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 6 points 8 months ago

Western legal systems are a fucking joke.

Do not confuse Western and American just because America is to the west. Western European nations operate differently from America which is a 3rd world country with a Gucci handbag.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

They're better than systems that pre-suppose guilt and actually make you prove your innocence.

In those systems by the time you end up charged it's pretty much too late to do anything but get a softer sentence.

It's also worth noting that many of our justice system rights in the US have been severely eroded. Like the right to a jury trial, the prohibition on search and seizure without cause, the right to a lawyer, and the prohibition on cruel or unusual punishment. With all of that compromised the predisposition of innocence is itself severely compromised.