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I argue it's better to stop producing so much.
Don't blame consumers for consuming what's placed in front of them. Blame the producers for producing collectively more shit than the entire population will ever need or want.
I blame them both. Neither can do it without the other.
I agree it's both but they can do it without the other. Remember when all those copies of the ET videogame were dumped in a whole? It's a weird example but they often create a lot of product that's never sold. Likewise consumers will be extremely wasteful and fickle. Like how people won't buy ugly fruits and veggies so instead ugly carrots are cut into baby carrots.
No but I assume there was never an ET 2?
I promise there's more corporate waste nobody purched it's not a stretch.
Of course it is. Corporations don't throw money away producing things they know people won't buy.
They do all the time actually. You need more product than you will sell basically always.
Wrong again. They stock more product than they think they will sell in case they underestimate demand.
That's the same thing lol
No it's not lmao
Err….they definitely aren’t producing more than people want, or at least not enough to matter since they are making loads of money producing things….
I take it you've never been to a landfill eh
Not claiming they aren’t producing more than people need just that people seem to want more. There is a sure conversation around the psychology of enticing people to constantly buy buy buy and how lots of products are ‘disposable’ though
So they are definitely producing more than people want? That conflicts with what you previously said.
No they are producing more than people need. People are buying what they want.
And I think people should buy fairphones. It's a great idea and it needs to be a compelling phone to get more people to buy it.
The problem is that ethics alone as a reason to buy is shit because it's better to go used ethically.
It's the reusable grocery bag of phones as long as it's not comparable to other phones.
Oh yeah for sure. I want to see fairpjone succeed but you’re right about the ethical argument.
To be super clear, definitely don’t think all this is up to the consumer to change, more along government and systems probably.