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Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) suggested Monday that Russian President Vladimir Putin has some sort of financial influence over former President Trump.

In an interview with MSNBC’s “Inside with Jen Psaki,” Pelosi said Putin is the “richest person in the world” and has “stiff competition” to being named the most evil person in the world.

Pelosi asked “what does he have on Donald Trump that he’d have to constantly be catering to Putin?”

Her comments came just after Trump doubled down on his criticism of NATO and said he would encourage Russia to attack U.S. allies who fail to reach the alliance’s defense spending goals. Trump has also declined to criticize Putin for the death of opposition leader Alexei Navalny in a Russian prison last week.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 248 points 9 months ago (78 children)

Jesus Christ, Democrats. Stop pussyfooting around with this shit. He's a traitor. He's a rapist. He wants to be a dictator. Putin controls him. Just come right out and say this shit.

I've said this already once today. Just say these words: "If you vote for Trump, you're voting for a rapist." And say it repeatedly.

They can't even do that! Fucking baffling.

[–] joyjoy@lemm.ee 64 points 9 months ago (3 children)

"If you vote for Trump, you're voting for a rapist."

This didn't really work that first time.

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 32 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Then nothing will work, but at least Dems can show some fucking spines instead of trying to compromise with traitors.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 26 points 9 months ago (2 children)

But compromising with traitors is the best way to show progressives that traitors are better regarded by the party than they'll ever be.

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago

The one thing everyone in Washington can agree on - progressives are the scum of the earth.

Ending the “campaign finance” gravy train, improving social safety nets to allow people to live a life free from fear and desperation, meaningful action to address climate change, fair wages…truly a capitalist’s nightmare.

[–] Nudding@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago
[–] Drusas@kbin.social 15 points 9 months ago (2 children)

That's the tactic the Democrats used in 2016 when they lost. It seemed like a slam dunk tactic to point out that anyone voting for Trump was voting for someone who commits sexual assault against women, but his voters ate it up.

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Who fucking cares about his voters? The point is to motivate everyone else to vote and maybe catch undecided voters by showing a spine.

It didn't work in 2020 because Hilary's campaign focused on safe states instead of battleground states. The same thing worked in 2020 because Biden campaigned better. Both won the popular vote, but one didn't motivate where it mattered.

[–] suction@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

I agree a hundred percent but whoever is still not motivated to vote against Trump probably secretly roots for him.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Do you really think this weak-ass shit they're doing right now will work better?

[–] Drusas@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No, I don't think either will work at all.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] Drusas@kbin.social 4 points 9 months ago

Also didn't say that. I was simply pointing out a fallacy somebody else made.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

A judge didn't deem him a rapist the first time.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 9 months ago

Seems to be a positive for republicans

[–] gloss@discuss.tchncs.de 53 points 9 months ago (2 children)

A tape was released where he boasted about committing sexual assault. He bragged about grabbing them by the pussy. That tape came out like a month or two before the 2016 election. An October surprise that would have sunk any other candidate in the history of the USA. His fans did not care at all. Most of them probably cheered him on.

Rape? This is the party who think it's impossible to rape your own wife. Rape doesn't even exist to them.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago

An October surprise that would have sunk any other candidate in the history of the USA.

It only sinks your campaign if your voter base disapproves of the behavior. Trump won a majority of white women voters. An outright majority. Think about that.

Our country is so fucking misogynist that white women will hear "real estate cretin grabs actress by her crouch just because he can" and reply "as is his right" as though he's a fucking 13th century aristocrat claiming prima nocta.

This is the real primal power of a fascist campaign. You're not bound by the rules. You are, in fact, rewarded for breaking them. And the more rules you can break without anyone stopping you, the more popular appeal you possess.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

Rape doesn't exist to MAGA people. They will vote for Trump anyway. They are not who they should be trying to reach.

Do you think that it shouldn't be brought up?

[–] clgoh@lemmy.ca 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)
[–] kautau@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

And trump just sold nearly half a million dollars in cheap chinese shoes in half a day. Idiots are idiots. And the "representative" of the LLC that was just formed a month ago to sell these shoes is Andrew Pierce, of Cloud Peak Law (which seems to be distancing themselves from that name really quickly lol) https://wyomingllcattorney.com/About.

They are a tax evasion firm. https://www.offshorealert.com/wyoming-asset-protection-law-firm-cloud-peak-seeks-to-quash-irs-summons-for-danish-tax-investigation/

Trump may be an idiot. Or he may be somebody pretending to be an idiot. But his team isn't. They are excellent at convincing idiots that they are smart by supporting him.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

I can almost guarantee you that he didn't actually sell that many. The whole grift is to sell like 100 pairs, but say you sold 1000, and then put another 100 on eBay for 3x the price to cash in on the fomo

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[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

But the civility. What will the donors think?

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Keep in mind the Trump v Biden election cycle hasn’t even started. September/October are going to be spicy.

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Oh, how will Thanksgiving go?

Gun fight or football?

[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Sniper football. You play a full game of football and each down a sniper on each team gets to take one shot while the teams run around for their lives. Very American

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago
[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 3 points 9 months ago

His followers know all that. They like him for what he is, not despite it.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago

I think they are legitimately fearful that going too hard will provoke violence.

Or rather, if you believe that these people can be deprogrammed at some point... eventually... and again become functional members of society, then you need to leave some path back.

Or rather, most people are still afraid of confronting the reality where these people actually have no path back from this collective edgy post-truth fascist-life-crisis.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think you want war. When they are thinking long term. We all know it. But lowering themselves to his level allows A LOT more mud slinging. Which is bad enough. It's distracting enough to give the citizens nothing. And that's what it should be about.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Because the short term is really fucking dire. And they want war. Taking the high road and not giving to them is not going to work.

[–] mriguy@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

They are currently fighting the war. And winning it, because we keep pretending they aren’t. When they go low and we go high, they get what they want and fascism gets further up the beach.

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