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Mercedes-Benz scales back electric ambitions as EV pessimism grows
(arstechnica.com)
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I'm really optimistic about electric vehicles, I don't know what you're talking about. LOL.
Are you still optimistic after looking at the price of a Mercedes EV?
I never buy new so I don't personally care. There will be a guy selling it on Craigslist in a few years and I will buy it from him. Thus my optimism.
Where are you going to buy your replacement gasoline engine and transmission? The previous owner decided that oil change intervals were more of a guideline anyway. One big win in buying a used EV is that maintenance is minimal, so there's less worry about how the previous owner treated the car.
I promise replacing your drivetrain at 200k is going to cost more than a battery pack.
I can get an aftermarket LiFePo battery replacement for my prius for 1/10th the cost of an OEM. It's just a bunch of laptop batteries in a box, it really doesn't have to be super expensive. As adoption grows aftermarket battery replacements will plummet in price.
Oh well, I changed a few years back transmission for my bmw. I bought a rebuilt one which cost 1000 euros and the shop asked 1000 euros for the work. I think there arent really prices put yet for example MB batteries as theyre still under warranty? But I'd take a guess that battery pack would be a bit more expensive.
The price in the US for a rebuilt transmission plus swap on a BMW is about $5000. So I guess it depends on location.
That’s the way it should be but it’s not. There’s been a few people with Ioniq 5s in Canada who are getting quoted at $60+k for a replacement battery pack. That’s more than the original car I think.
Temu? Seriously not a big issue for me personally. I literally did battery vehicle integrations for about 10 years. But yeah, others are going to need more battery techs or integrators etc. today's mechanics will need to stretch again from ICE experts to battery integration experts. My guess is that it will be a good 10 years of tech transition. Meantime the political assholes with their worthless shit filled skulls will need cow prodding to get them to require battery standardization. So long as the size of the battery can come in predictable modules, then car makers can design around that and the dream of interchangeable battery systems could be realized...like it could be a standard voltage and amperage with variable capacity but constant volume/shape, connectors, interface signals etc. When all those dominoes fall in place it will be like when cars started to look similar... R13 tires for example with standard lug locations can be used in many different cars from many makers and many model years. I hope it goes eventually happens. Then also recyclability needs plenty of work. The current batteries are not that bad. They are mostly carbon after all.
Honestly curious as to why this got downvoted?
Edit: Typo ("Damn you voice to text!" /shakesfistinair)
What's wrong with short, if it gets to the point?
What's moronic about it?
The reason I want to know is because no one ever talks about when those batteries wear out at ~ 100,000 miles and you have to replace them, and the thousands of dollars it cost to do so, and if that cost is considered into the purchase price, and if there are better/worst places to buy replacement batteries at.
Because the overwhelming majority won't wear out at 100k miles. ICE cars have engine failures early as well, so why are we picking on EVs? I just had to put my car in the dumpster at 112k because the head gasket failed and replacing it would cost 6 fucking thousand dollars!
Meanwhile my wife's Prius has 300k on it and the battery is still at 70% capacity.
You have any links you can point me to that backs that up?
A JD Powers article states the following...
Last I heard the batteries on any ev basically gets replaced at ~100k because they don't hold a charge well, assuming the same weather conditions throughout the lifetime of the batteries. I even heard that specifically about Prius'.
Mercedes has never been affordable, regardless of ICE or electric. It's a car for the upper-middle class who want to pretend to be rich
Go to Europe, they are everywhere
Ever seen a Mercedes A class? I don't think anyone pretending to be rich drove those, at least the older models from the early 2000s.