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About the only way we're going to actually have a democracy is if they consistently lose elections. That's going to mean volunteering, donating, and actually turning out to vote

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[-] Bitflip@lemmy.ml 78 points 2 years ago

Isn't this what the second amendment is actually for?

[-] gregorum@lemm.ee 65 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

it’s what the whole fucking constitution is for

[-] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

... Ignore the shit parts though. Ideally we'd amend them.

Honestly we've learned with Trump just how shit the constitution actually is legally. There really needs to be a constitutional reformation.

[-] Headofthebored@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Yeah it's painfully obvious that it far too often neglects to even consider that an official (or party of officials) could use their power in bad faith, and that each malevolent action by them often has no check but is simultaneously not punishable.

[-] Tinidril@midwest.social 20 points 2 years ago

The second amendment tells you what it's for - militias. But what are militias for? The constitution tells us that too.

Article I, Section 8, Clause 15: [The Congress shall have Power . . . ] To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions.

So, no, the second amendment is about a system to suppress insurrections, not commit them. You've been lied to.

We have revolutions every 2-4 years. Insurrections are not about the will of the people, they are about subverting the will of the people.

[-] blazeknave@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

I didn't think the commenter above was referring to arming the insurrectionists....

[-] Bitflip@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

Not even close, but It's my fault. I'm really bad at articulating my thoughts sometimes, and usually end up deleting my comments before someone calls me out on it. Sorry!

[-] blazeknave@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Hahaha you're self aware and acknowledge you're fallible, no need to apologize to anyone

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

~~That also infers your militia has to be one that can be called up and thus that Congress can declare who is and is not a member of a militia.~~

Edit - nvm that requires like three leaps of logic not accounted for. Don't post before coffee kids!

[-] blazeknave@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

It's so nice to see someone correct themselves. I try to show my kid accepting when you're wrong and acknowledging it. With friends I've been espousing the last Marc Maron where he's like "what happened to regular stupid?.. 'oh my bad, I'm an idiot, that's totally wrong, sorry about that'" .. ffs you can't learn anything new if you don't listen to other ideas and get defensive.

[-] Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

And the way the winds blowing is why the #1 demographic for first time firearm purchasers throughout covid has been liberals.

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