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"Will you vote for Biden in the 2024 election?" [Y/N]
this post was submitted on 27 Feb 2024
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It's crazy how much energy is already being put into blaming voters for being turned off by an undesirable politician.
Usually this happens after an election.
Biden supporting genocide WILL disengage voters regardless of how bad the other guy is. His decision to support genocide will hand Trump the presidency on a silver platter.
If someone kicks their dog, the dog responds by biting the fucker, and the fucker responds to the bite by giving the dog away to some other fucker who kicks the dog even more... are we really going to criticize the dog for biting fucker#1? How about don't kick the god damned dog??
Trump supports the Isreali genocide and also wants to do the same thing at home with immigrants.
no amount of genocide is acceptable
Other than giving more genocide a free pass, what are your plans to reduce genocide?
I'm not giving genocide a free pass.
Voting for anyone other than Biden will in effect be like voting for Trump, who will make the Israel/Palestine crisis even more kinetic in Israel's favor.
this is election misinformation: they can't count my vote for trump or Biden unless that who I vote for.
Enjoy the straw man
Do you even know what that term means?
No I just use it blindly because I'm a moron who votes third party
it's not a strawman
It is if both sides are supporting genocide. They cancel out. You have to start looking at other things to criticize Biden for.
Are you seriously arguing that criticisms of Democrats don't count if the Republicans hold the same position? Wanna think about that one again?
why? One thing is enough if the thing is genocide. I'm just going to vote for somebody else.
And yet your vote will help trump regardless of whether you shove your head in the sand or not. Reality exists outside your head.
the only person who will be helped by my vote is the person for whom i vote. the only vote that helps trump is a vote for trump. i won't be voting for trump. my vote will not help trump. qed
Unless you consider reality, not that you would.
i know how votes are really counted, and if my vote gets counted for trump, that's a crime.
And you know that historically it's been many decades since a third party has had even a small chance of winning
you won't be able to discourage me from voting. and you aren't likely to convince me to vote for someone unless i want them to win. of course, i could be bribed, but i doubt anyone wants to pay $20,000 for one vote.
You just admitted to being open to committing a crime, but you're not willing to consider the impact of your actions. A real star
wrong
Trump supports the genocide more. And locally, he wants to throw migrants into camps. See the bigger picture
Biden is doing that right now...
So did Obama...
And trump does not support Israel genocide more than Biden. trump would want something out of it. Biden needs nothing in return
This is the danger of running Biden. As bad as trump is, Biden is also shitty.
We could have locked in a dem.win by running a halfway decent candidate that isn't two decades past retirement age.
bOtH sIdEs
You're delusional. Get some help and start searching for a way back to reality.
What?
Do you need a source for Biden saying he's a Zionist and has unconditional support for Israel no matter what happens in the future?
Or did you mean you want a source for trump supporting anything that privately enriches himself or makes him feel good about himself?
Biden and trump supporters are too similar these days it's hard to tell who I pissed off.
Do you need a source for Trump being a Hitler worshipping piece of shit who wants to kill everyone that isn't white?
Well at least I know you're a Biden supporter now instead of a trump supporter.
Have a nice life, hope it gets better.
If you meant that, you wouldn't be trying to help Trump win.
You legit just said “Trump supports the genocide more", and then probably felt like you had moral superiority in the argument. Do you understand how insane it is that you’re arguing over who is more genocidy?
It doesn’t really matter who you vote for, because if the US is at the point where they’re voting based on who is going to kill less people, then the country is already a fascist state and all hope of turning that around is lost. You’re all just fighting over what flavor of fascism you get.
Do you know how braindead it is to treat things as equal which are vastly, vastly different, in consequential ways that will end in large amounts of human suffering?
It matters more than ever in history who you vote for. You are the exact type of turd that inspired this post.
I’m not the sort of person that inspired this post. The type that inspired this post is the type that thinks democrats are as bad as republicans. I don’t think that goes far enough. I’m the sort who thinks the US government is a profoundly evil institution, the continuation of which is the sole cause of untold suffering elsewhere in the world. I’m hoping Trump wins, because it will destabilize the entire nation and hopefully be the push we need to lose our position as the global superpower. If Americans need to suffer for that to happen, then perhaps it will be a learning experience on what it’s been like living in Latin America and the Middle East for the past several decades while the US government toys with weaker nations for profit.
So don’t confuse me with those sorts of people. They just want democrats to lose. I want America to burn. We are not the same.
Noooooo, gus fring accelerationists are not allowed as part of my libtard political worldview! Nooooo! America can still be saved! Think of the children! Think of the people who are suffering in already pretty bad circumstances that can't get much worse! Noooo! My middle class purview and perspective is making me think that this is all still salvageable as everyone around me dies and suffers and I can't see it! Noooo!
You are far worse than the shitbags I lumped you in with. My bad.
"I'm not a mental sloth, I'm actually a passive terrorist"
Listen, nothing you could possibly say to me is going to offend me, because I don’t know you and I don’t care what you think. You’re just getting yourself worked up, so why don’t you do yourself a favor and just stop replying to me.
Speaking of being a “passive terrorist”, if anyone else needs help setting up encrypted anonymous comms for supporting their direct action, hit me up. I’d be more than happy to teach anyone ways to avoid government surveillance.
All of you society destroyers think responses are about you. They are about passersby who need to understand what you are.
Society destroyer. I like that. It sounds so cool.
Better than "human garbage" I guess
I’m not Palestinian, so I wouldn’t expect you to call me that.
Enjoy that Putin dick
Homophobia is always a good look. You sure you’re not a Trump voter? Because you sound like one.
Then again, the average centrist Democrat usually does.
Simps for trump would tend to recognize each other so you know that, like every single thing you say, this is disingenuous
This observation is neither prudent nor profound.
It didn't stop people from voting for Obama. It didn't stop people from voting for Clinton. What makes you think Biden will be treated any differently?
"voters are stupid, don't blame them for that."