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I really don’t feel the need to. I pay fair prices for my music and get it how I want it when I want it where I want it.
Im not pirating to shaft people out of money
I buy music on bandcamp/directly from artists all the time. I just dislike streaming services, as I always want to have the files, and the money artists get from them is abbyssmal anyway.
Especially for smaller/indie artists I wait for Bandcamp Fridays so all of the money goes straight to them (Fuck Epic). Buying even one album for $5-10 is more than they would earn from thousands of Spotify listens from you.
This is the way.
I'll be sticking to spotify personally out of convenience, and the fact that I'm paying for a family plan but to be fair paying that money directly to the artists you like will be much more effective while not supporting platforms that pay them very little for their work.
If you want though, using spotify adblock has been quite effective in my experiance. That way you have the convenience and you don't pay spotify shit
Spotify is literally the only subscription service that I haven't cut ties with, because as much as I hate its horrific data harvesting, I'm running it on GrapheneOS with legitimately next to zero privileges in a sandbox, and for what I'm paying, I truly do feel I'm getting my money's worth. I use it every single day, and while I have all my music stored locally (as in legitimately scraped and downloaded, not 'downloaded'), I only did so as a precaution just in case Spotify decides to fuck things up and I also choose to cancel it as well.
Try vimusic, from what i've seen its just spotify without the data harvesting (and the api's taken from youtube music, shouldn't change much though)
That actually sounds fantastic, cheers for the recommendation!
I wouldnt count on it working for long. vfsfitvnm hasn't touched the repo since december with several PRs left untouched.
Seems abandoned to me. https://github.com/vfsfitvnm/ViMusic
If you're up for another recommendation, I suggest trying out Innertune [Link to Github repo]. It has been discussed on the GrapheneOS Discussion Forum as an alternative to Spotify for music streaming. Also, Innertune's dev released an update recently (2 days ago from the time of this post) that includes a major UI rewrite and other improvements to the app [Link to latest stable release].
Spent the day recreating my Spotify playlists on Innertune. Thank you SO much for this recommendation, it is exactly what I've been looking for in an alternative. There's even a heap of shit available that I can't find on Spotify.
Aye, no problem!
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Try https://funkwhale.audio/
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this
Where can you legitimately buy music these days? I'll be happy to pay if the artist gets their fair share. I used to buy from Amazon but that has gone completely to shit recently. Like they really don't want you to buy stuff from them any more. And I cannot bring myself to give a cent to Spotify when they paid 100 million to Joe fucking Rogan.
Bandcamp my friend!
Very fair point - Spotify does shaft a lot of their artists from what I’ve heard. As the other user mentioned, bandcamp gets brought up a lot. Try reachin out to some bands over email maybe and see what they say!
Bandcamp (indie)
Qobuz, 7digital, artists website directly (general stuff)
NativeDSD (audiophile)
I generally run Spotify with the XManager version on Android and SpotX on PC. Works great.
Why do I care who they paid money to to have some random podcast on their service?
If you aren’t going to shows and buying from the merch table, or buying directly from bancamp etc you aren’t supporting artists.That’s where the majority of their money comes from.
I am supporting the artist to some extent. Stealing Spotify content would be adding insult to injury imo
If you primarily consume content through Spotify or streaming you are supporting office with fractions of a penny per stream.
With millions if not billions of streams everyday 24/7/365
Agree to disagree on this one
That’s fine, just know that this has already been looked in to and reported on with rough numbers on what artists earn and artists themselves talking about it, and you have extremely rose tinted glasses on how all of that actually plays out and the amount of money musicians earn from streaming.
If you have any sources handy for these claims I’d love to see some real figures
Yep. That's why I pay Spotify but stopped paying netflix. Fuck this need to subscribe to countless streaming services.
Hell I wouldn't be pirating movies and shows if publishers allowed me to pay lol. Unlike Netflix, Prime Video etc, Spotify really gives me pretty much all music
Same here, while I do have the time to chase around pirated movies/games/software, I want my music to just be there with me without all the hassle.
Spotify's algorithm is just great!
Spotify shareholders say thanks. The artists, not so much. Keep your spotify money to go to concerts or buy albums on bandcamp. Spotify is the worst.
Guess what, it's not only the small musicians who suffer, it's everyone who falls into the "small" category.
Speaking as an IT professional, who has worked at smaller agencies, where new technologies arise and make our work more efficient. Do you think our bosses let us enjoy the free time that we gained from these advancing technologies? They don't! Instead they put even more workload onto us, up to the point where we burn out even faster than before. It's huge difference wirking on one task for five days (bc of limitations) vs. working on 10 tasks during the same period.
Spotify sucks, but the whole music industry has sucked like that for literally a hundred years - A very very few artists make bank, about 5% make a little, everyone else makes zero.
Oh indeed, I dont't think it was better before. But technology should be about making things better, shouldn't it?
Spotify probably is the only algorithm I use that just gives me stuff I would enjoy, other services try to push bs I don't want. While I use soulseek and buy from Bandcamp when possible I still use Spotify for discovery.