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[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 23 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Drug addiction is only negative if it causes you problems in life, and I'd say that coffee doesn't really cause me problems in life.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 32 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] apprehentice@lemmy.enchanted.social 32 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Says the water addict. Oh, look at me! I can't go three days without water!

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Coffee addict is technically water addict, too

[–] Bene7rddso@feddit.de 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] Allero@lemmy.today 2 points 9 months ago

Unintentional Lemmy moment

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

Coffee costs a lot more than water

[–] PlexSheep@feddit.de 11 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Iirc coffee addiction worsens sleep quality and costs money. It's not like blocking your body from being tired can really be beneficial.

[–] isthingoneventhis@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Alternatively you have undiagnosed adhd and it helps you function like a real human :D

[–] metallic_z3r0@infosec.pub 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

One of the reasons I was able to argue my ADHD was impacting my life negatively was the fact I was drinking enough coffee to hurt my health just to feel human and I still had executive dysfunction, so stimulants would be more effective and overall work as harm reduction. Now I'm not even on stimulants (technically), I'm finding bupropion works best for me. I still have a small cup of coffee in the morning, as it keeps me regular.

[–] isthingoneventhis@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I think, if left to my own devices, I will have about 2-6 cups of instant coffee in a day depending on my mood. Though I don't think there's much caffeine in it? I never thought about howwww much caffeine was going in, but maybe that's because it doesn't do much for me besides helping focus (poorly at that).

[–] Ilflish@lemm.ee 5 points 9 months ago

Depends on how addicted. People tend to conflate 1 cup in the morning with 6 throughout the day because they both use them as a pick me up.

[–] fin@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

4 cups of coffee a day is fine

[–] htrayl@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Coffee also is high in polyphenols - the benefits almost certainly outweigh the drawbacks. Just don't drink coffee after the morning.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There are plenty of other sources for polyphenols - including tea, but also chocolate, qinoa, buckwheat etc.

There is no need to drink coffee in order to replenish polyphenols in your body.

And drawbacks are huge: aside from broken sleep, caffeine puts a giant strain on cardiovascular and other systems, and in people with caffeine addiction, not having their cup leads to high irritability, sleepiness, dizziness, and a lot of other symptoms.

[–] htrayl@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

There are plenty of studies displaying improved cardiovascular health in those who drink 1-4 cups of coffee a day.. Generally, cardiovascular risks of caffeine from coffee are not important for the average person's health decisions.

In addition, there is a good argument for caffeine prior to exercise - it improves performance and therefore results and therefore health outcomes.

Also tea has caffeine as well (technically dark chocolate too, but less than tea so not really a concern).

And again, the solution to sleep issues are to not have caffeine (tea, coffee, or otherwise) more than a few hours after you wake up.

Withdrawal symptoms are not a major concern - they are temporary at best.

Edit: there are plenty of sources of polyphenols - but frankly the average American does not get nearly enough generally. If you have a typical American diet, I would not recommend quitting coffee as a health measure unless you have already drastically increased consumption of polyphenols generally.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Alright, thanks for fair criticism! Will delve deeper.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago
[–] jroid8@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

True. I can't drink unlimited quantities of coffee without having negative effects, as such I limit myself to two cups a day, one in the morning and one after lunch.

[–] jroid8@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I would love to drink one cup of coffee a day but any amount of coffee will amplify my anxiety. I drink once I'm cured

[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 months ago

Sorry to hear that. Hope your condition improves, anxiety is a really nasty thing to deal with.

[–] ReakDuck@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I get anxiety issues from Coffee and tend to feel completely exhausted at the end of days. I try to ditch it and mostly replace it with Jasmine Tea, Oolong or Yerba Mate

[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I like Yerba Mate, but I dare not drink it that much on account of the absolutely massive caffeine content it has (granted you drink it bombilla-style).

[–] ReakDuck@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago

Idk what the issue with too much caffeine is. Like, even my math teacher told me to be caucious but I dont feel exhausted at the end of the day like on Coffee.

But I try to mostly use Jasmine tea for now.