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The New York Times is one of the newspapers of record for the United States. However, it's history of running stories with poor sourcing, insufficient evidence, and finding journalists with conflicts of interest undermines it's credibility when reporting on international issues and matters of foreign policy.

Late last year, the NYT ran a story titled 'Screams Without Words': How Hamas Weaponized Sexual Violence on Oct. 7. Recently, outlets like The Intercept, Jacobin, Democracy Now! , Mondoweiss, and others have revealed the implicit and explicit bias against Palestine that's apparent both in the aforementioned NYT story and in the NYT's reporting at large. By obfuscating poor sources, running stories without evidence, and using an ex-IDF officer with no journalism experience as the author, the NYT demonstrates their disregard for common journalistic practice. This has led to inaccurate and demonstrably false reporting on critical issues in today's world, which has been used to justify the lack of American pressure against Israel to the American public.

This journalistic malpractice is not unusual from the NYT. One of the keystone stories since the turn of the century was the NYT's reporting on Iraq's pursuit of WMDs: U.S. SAYS HUSSEIN INTENSIFIES QUEST FOR A-BOMB PARTS, Defectors Bolster U.S. Case Against Iraq, Officials Say, Illicit Arms Kept Till Eve of War, An Iraqi Scientist Is Said to Assert. These reports were later revealed to be false, and the NYT later apologized, but not before the reporting was used as justification to launch the War on Iraq, directly leading to the deaths of hundreds of thousands and indirectly causing millions of death while also destabilizing the region for decades.

These landmark stories have had a massive influence on US foreign policy, but they're founded on lies. While stories published in the NYT do accurately reflect foreign policy aims of the US government, they are not founded in fact. The NYT uses lies to drum up public support for otherwise unpopular foreign policy decisions. In most places, we call that "government propaganda."

I think reading and understanding propaganda is an important element of media literacy, and so I'm not calling for the ban of NYT articles in this community. However, I am calling for an honest discussion on media literacy and it's relation to the New York Times.

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[–] Candelestine@lemmy.world 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"Consistently" and "in-these-specific-cases" are different things.

[–] intelshill@lemmy.ca 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

These are some of the most important and impactful stories since 2000. If the NYT can't keep their journalism robust for these, what does it say about everything else?

Oh wait, we already know: "Palestinian family collides with bullet discharged from Israeli weapon"

[–] Candelestine@lemmy.world -4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Nobody and no system should be expected to be perfect all the time, I would anticipate some mistakes over a course of decades.

Have you checked for any times they were critical of US foreign policy within the same timeframe?

[–] intelshill@lemmy.ca 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

These mistakes led to the deaths of hundreds of thousands. How much more genocide apologism do you want to do?

[–] carbrewr84@kbin.social 0 points 9 months ago

The NYT mistakes caused hundreds of thousands of deaths that you say are genocide? Please enlighten me on how this is the case because it sounds a lot like hyperbole.

You seem to be just a pissed-off person who wants to lash out at things/people/organizations and think that if something isn't perfectly aligned with your views, then it's evil/bad/etc. I'd like to suggest stepping outside and taking a deep breath.

[–] Candelestine@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't think the invasion of Iraq can be blamed on the NYT. I think the Bush administration and Al Qaeda get the credit for that one.

However much is necessary to arrive at the truth.

[–] intelshill@lemmy.ca 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You think the NYT played no role in drumming up public support for an otherwise incredibly unpopular foreign policy decision? Here's a report by FAIR: https://fair.org/home/20-years-later-nyt-still-cant-face-its-iraq-war-shame/

[–] Candelestine@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Bush didn't care. Dude was an asshole. He tried to drum up support with our allies, and when most of them said no, he just did it anyway.

That said, it was a mistake to warmonger, don't get me wrong.

[–] intelshill@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's probably fair. The scale of the US intervention may have been different, though.

[–] carbrewr84@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago

Do you really think that the scale of the US invasion of Iraq would have been different if the NYT hadn't posted that story?