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The planet's average temperature hit 17.23 degrees Celsius on Thursday, surpassing the 17.18C record set on Tuesday and equalled on Wednesday.

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[–] sci@feddit.nl 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

metals dont disappear tho, they can be salvaged from the ruins of the previous civilization. but i agree coal/oil are a problem.

[–] Cabrio@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Good luck relying on the coin flip that civilisation gets to a point it can make use of those before they all oxidise, metals don't last forever, nor do they maintain the capacity for all applications due to quality.

[–] BallsInTheShredder@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yep. I'm a mechanic, no expert of course but what I know from experience? Metals aren't eternal. They rust, they corrode, they oxidize (lol) they break in strenuous (or light) application and just in general aren't guaranteed. Nothing is. Wiring constantly fails. Batteries go dead. To top it off, we don't make things to last anymore. Everything seems to be made to last just until the warranty expires. Personally I consider every single product that isn't built to last as long as possible an utter waste of resources. I think it should be illegal to manufacture items that will only last a short time. Companies use up resources like we have an infinite supply so they can profit. Making vehicles that can hit 160-200 mph that will only ever travel on roads with a speed limit of 70-80 tops should be illegal. Hell, racing in general just shouldn't be legal, wasting all of these previous finite resources to go fast? All that time, all that technology for something useless? It's all so ridiculous.

I work on vehicles/equipment that are 30-50 years old that are much more reliable than the vehicles of the past 20 years. Simpler to work on too. If we ever do truly see Armageddon and lose the world as we know it, people are going to experience hell trying to get vehicles to run. Even the best mechanics I know can't fix many of the issues the new vehicles present without vehicle specific programs that the manufacturers won't release to the public. They're making vehicles/equipment that people won't be able to even use much less repair if society collapsed.

Yet an old truck from the 70's? Almost anyone can learn to work on them and you don't need any fancy tools to get them running. Can do damn near anything you need to with some vice grips, a flathead, a christen wrench and maybe a hammer.

It's getting bad. We would have had enough resources to sustain us for many, many years to come. Silver, gold, platinum? We mined and used most of it for what, jewelry?

Steel, iron etc? Building skyscrapers for millionaires to live in at overly expensive rates?

People are homeless, people are starving, people are living in poverty

And we had all the resources needed for a utopian civilization but traded it all so a small percentage of the population could live like Kings.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I work on vehicles/equipment that are 30-50 years old that are much more reliable than the vehicles of the past 20 years.

I think you're confusing durability for reliability here.

30-50 year old vehicles will go forever, but usually need small repairs fairly often. Modern vehicles will do 200k-300k km with no problems, and then everything bad starts happening, because it's not like anyone maintains them.

So the 30-50 year old ones are more durable, but the newer ones are more reliable. Until they've reached the end of their useful life, that is.

[–] neutronicturtle@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's also survivorship bias. All the crapily designed cars from 30-50 years ago are long scraped while some of the well designed ones are still around. With "current" cars you see the whole spectrum.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Absolutely. There are entire marques you don't see anymore.

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