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Trump Claims He Will Debate Biden 'ANYTIME, ANYWHERE, ANYPLACE'
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Trump doesn't debate anyone ever. He shows up and steamrolls the other person with his version of reality.
And when he's done, he flips the table, shits on it, and then declares victory...
...and his base fucking eats it up with a -smile.-
It's baffling.
The kind of people that eat up his “debating” style are people who treat the idea of an open debate of concepts the same way - that is to say that they’d be flipping tables and shitting everywhere themselves. They’re uneducated and hold unqualified and unjustifiable positions, and the only way to maintain those positions is to simply ignore or reject all rhetoric to the contrary.
They eat it up because that’s exactly how they’d act when faced with reason, logic, facts or statistics.
That's what really throws me for a loop. There are a lot of dumb people that think he's smart, but there are also a lot of smart people that buy into it too... Is fear really that powerful? It is, I know... But damn...
He debated Biden and got crushed.
But were they debates? Can we really call them that?
I know that's what the forum called for, but I saw zero debating.
Jerry Springer episodes had more debating going on.
all I remember was Biden saying "will you shutup man"
If there were only two cars would it have been a race?
It was called a race, people expected to see a race, but no race took place.
It was not a race.
Let me try it this way...
If you had a coworker who got a new dog. They were excited and told everyone in the office about him.
Couple months later this coworker throws a party. When you get to their house, they excitedly show you the new dog, but when what you see is clearly a cat.
Which are you more likely to think? "What an interesting looking dog." or "Sir, that is a cat."
He said it was a dog, and everyone attending was expecting to see a dog. It wasn't a dog.
How about this scenario:
You have a disagreement with your neighbor about the property line. You mutually agree to settle it with a debate.
Your neighbor spends the entire time talking over you, sidestepping virtually every point you make, blatantly lying, personally insulting you and airing grievances.
You participate in good faith and the moderator decides that the property line should follow your plans.
Did you and your neighbor engage in a debate?
Here is an opinion: Donald Trump is neither classically or emotionally intelligent enough to engage in an actual, by definition, debate.
Right. But no boxing took place.
What does the word debate mean to you?
Edit for clarity: In the context of a formal, moderated event.
If I were to define it off the top of my head, I'd say it means a mutually respectful argument.
That being said, your comment rang a bell: A couple weeks ago I stumbled across descriptive and prescriptive linguistics. I'd mostly forgotten about it, but it's super relevant here.
The basic idea according to descriptivists is that laguage is living and a words meaning can change based on how it's being used by native speakers as a whole. Meanwhile prescriptivists insist on rules and grammar.
Or in other words; We're both right.
I'm using the word debate as it's typically used to describe a mutually respectful discussion of differing opinions, wheras you're coming from a more by the books, black and white stance.
I found this video on Youtube that ultimately posits descriptivism works better for speech, perscriptivism works better for writing. I agree, and Social media is a little bit of both.
It's an interesting watch at around 7 minutes long: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ih0UqZ7O7Cg
Merriam-Webster has a decent write up on it too: https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/descriptive-vs-prescriptive-defining-lexicography
It does come off a bit pointed, imo, but I found that most sources unfortunately do.