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Microsoft's draconian Windows 11 restrictions will send an estimated 240 million PCs to the landfill when Windows 10 hits end of life in 2025 (www.tomshardware.com)

submitted 8 months ago by catch22@programming.dev to c/technology@lemmy.world

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[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Even the install was not an easy task. I had to go into the BIOS, change a setting, install it, go back into the BIOS, change the setting back, then it worked.

Well, that's outside Linux.

but I have not had to use the terminal so much in ages just to get things working the way I need them to. The average person using a CLI all the time? I don’t see it happening.

I've tried openSUSE recently, it seems you have to use it very little there.

but there is still a higher level of experience needed than the average person who just wants to watch Netflix is capable of or interested in learning.

I'm not sure. I think those people just ignore their problems with Windows due to being used to them or due to their relative or friends solving those for them.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

"Don't blame Linux that people won't adopt it because they can't install it" is an odd attitude.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

“Don’t blame Linux that people won’t adopt it because they can’t install it” is an odd attitude.

I don't see anything odd in saying that something universally needed for installing any OS is Linux' particular fault.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This is about mass adoption rather than throwing away old hardware. If Linux can't easily be installed on the old hardware, it will be thrown out.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Installing Linux is as easy as installing Windows.

[–] siipale@sopuli.xyz 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

But in many cases Windows is pre-installed so it doesn't matter if installing Windows is equally hard. People don't have to install Windows in order to use it. In order to get normal people to use Linux there should be similarly no barrier to entry. I've seen companies selling used laptops with Linux distro of choice pre-installed. Something like that could work.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 months ago

Yes, and also one can buy Lenovo and IIRC Dell laptops with Linux.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Except it isn't because that hardware was made to facilitate an easy install of Windows. Also, most of those people bought it pre-installed. So you're not only expecting them to have an easy install process, you're also expecting them to do something they haven't had to do in decades.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yes, and what would you expect people to do about that?

Some problems remaining unsolved take less energy than trying to solve them.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

I expect people to do nothing about it. That was my point.