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[–] Wooly@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You sound like a bot, but incase you're a real person.

Do you really believe billionaires earned their fortune from hardwork? Elon Musk spends his whole day on twitter shit posting. They're just nepobabies with money already. It's easy to turn lots of money into more money.

Billionaires do like 2 hours of work a week, a janitor works harder than them, they're just compensated very differently. There is no world where a billionaire worked hard enough to deserve to steal from everyone underneath them.

[–] Alperto@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

while I agree with you with the point, I don’t totally do:

Yes, most of rich people come from rich families (there’re actually studies showing how much easier it is for the relatives of wealthy people to become wealthy too than to normal people).

No, not all the rich people work two 2 hours a day. Specially self made ones, work most of their time (workaholics) but not hard in a physical way, but on a mental way (meetings, discussions, numbers, etc).

I’m not defending them, I’m just trying to be more realistic. And actually I agree with this OP and with your point that they don’t deserve that much. They may deserve to earn more than the others as he/she is the potential founder and responsible for the company success (I’m thinking more about the self made rich example), but the differences in salaries shouldn’t be that HUGE between the CEO and the janitors.

Norway is a country where salary differences is less huge than in other countries, and rich people really pay more taxes than low income people. That’s why people doing not really skilled jobs can afford iphones, teslas and traveling abroad every summer. And that’s the kind of goal we all should ask for.

[–] EcchiSukecchi@lemmy.fmhy.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There's a difference between "rich" and "wealthy"; the wealthy hope you never recognize that and that you continue to think wealth is the same as simply rich. Just being "rich" one might have legitimately worked their and off to get there; wealth is generational. Wealthy had a "rich" relative who initiated the means to further invest and work less.

[–] dfc09@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Regardless of how many hours a billionaire works, their labor is not worth the millions they make. That money comes from the surplus of value all their employees are making by actually working.

[–] Alperto@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

That’s what I say in my comment too.

[–] 7_Heavens@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I agree with this

[–] 7_Heavens@lemmy.fmhy.ml -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can't just accept the fact that musk is richer and better than you and you hate him.

But you do know that Elon Musk was founder of PayPal, right? He sold that and then started his business. Know about someone before you talks shit. Btw I don't like Elon incase you think I am his supportter or something.

No, I don't believe that billionaire worked hard for their money.

How do you tell someone is stealing money underneath them? Oh like if you are the kind of guy who thinks that if robinhood stole money and gave others then if others make money using their employees then it's bad thing. You have just stupid mentality.

I also know that most guys have inherited from their family. But doesn't change the fact that your ancestors didn't make any money to your generation.

[–] Wooly@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah I knew that. Funded by his father's emerald mine money no doubt. And pretty sure he just bought in, not founded. Something about a PayPal merger with x.com (Elon Musk). Musk isn't clever, he doesn't know how to code, he doesn't have any real skills. He's never done anything at spaceX, you think he's designing rockets or some shit? No. He's making actually smart people do it for him.

The fact is, you can't become a billionaire without exploiting your workers. And these ancestors that created money did so in exploitive ways too, slaves, colonising, EMERALD MINES, etc.

Genuinely, show me a good billionaires who earned their money and I'll show you 100 who inherited slave money or exploited their workers.

[–] MelonTheMan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I'm genuinely curious I don't think there is a single good billionaire?

[–] 7_Heavens@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Pretty sure you are just talking shit at this point. Go see his qualifications you dipshit