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[–] Kalysta@lemmy.world 79 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Imagine if we did this with climate change. Imagine if we tried to switch to renewable energy en masse 20 years ago.

[–] Johanno@feddit.de 31 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

Problem with that is that in comparison the alternative to CFC was not that more expensive and then a cheaper one was invented shortly after.

For climate change you basically can double our energy costs and therefore double the cost of almost everything.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 44 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Not to seem callous, but the first world could learn to live off of a little less.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 34 points 8 months ago

Honestly this is what I keep saying and everyone gets pissed when I do.

There's enough resources on this planet that every living human could live a decently luxurious life. But because we allow a small handful of us to hoard all those resources we have poverty on a global scale.

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 15 points 8 months ago

Whoa there buddy. That would put my butler's butler out of a job. Also where does a person park their yacht if not inside another, larger yacht?

[–] bloom_of_rakes@lemm.ee 4 points 8 months ago

It wouldn't even be less. We'd just have to reign in the capitalist feeding frenzy a bit.

2000 brands of shoes? Advertising? 99% of our production is wasted.

[–] r1veRRR@feddit.de 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

But that isn't true anymore, right? Renewables are now way cheaper per produced Watt. And still, we're stuck with people pretending that's not true.

[–] nossaquesapao@lemmy.eco.br 5 points 8 months ago

It's not so simple. They're cheaper than building non renewable, but are they cheaper than keeping the current plants running? Also, energy consumption keeps growing, and in many places, new generating plants using renewables usually only take care of the growth, and doesn't allow for room to take older plants out of operations. If we don't make huge efforts to reduce our energy consumption, I doubt we're going to get rid of non renewables so soon...

[–] Johanno@feddit.de 1 points 8 months ago

Currently they are cheaper despite the financial support for fossils but back then it was not and not enough was spent on research

[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

The cost of everything would double?

... Oh no...

[–] unreasonabro@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago

like as if we wanted to live