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[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca -4 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Yeah we really need to get rid of all of that due process stuff and throw people in prison based on how we feel.

Though it's possible there may be some flaws in having an authoritarian government that has that power.

[–] bbuez@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

criminal charges

Thats due process... we can argue about how long prosecution has taken given the overwhelming evidence for a trial, but I don't think there's much an arguement that the one with criminal charges wouldn't want to do away with due process, he's quite literally stated such.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The excessive delay is my and many other people's issue. It seems as if they're hoping something else like his death or election will prevent them from having to set the precedent of a former president getting convicted of a crime. I would never recommend we forego due process.

[–] bbuez@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Its brain-numbing to think there's people who think the criminal cases are "opinions getting in the way of politics" and disregard entirely the poltical process... while asserting their own opinions onto how the law should work. In a way I think that's how trump has pushed the envelope so far, Im personally in disbelief that his case wasnt closed ehh maybe 2 years ago, especially in the optics of "being too close to the election"

Anyway that's my rant, I will go ahead and wish for politcal peace for the all of us

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Definitely not, but they do need to actually start the trials in less than half a decade.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah due process takes time. If we did away with all the appeals available to him he'd already be on trial. But you can't eliminate the appeals process for Trump without eliminating it for everyone.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Appeals come after conviction, not before trial starts.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Right now the DC case is on hold because Trump is appealing to the Supreme court over the Presidential immunity thing.

And there have been many appeals before the other trials Trump is facing.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Oh yeah, those appeals. He's going to do everything he can to delay the start of a trial, and then the trials themselves. That's a given. If he wins the presidential race before a conviction then he's Scott free. That's why me and so many other people are frustrated with how slowly the entire process is taking. The amount of elapsed time is excessive, and it seems like they're trying to punt the actual trials down the road, hoping he dies or wins the Whitehouse so they don't have to set the precedent of a former president being convicted of a crime.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago

I suspect your sarcasm didn't land.

You make a good point, though, that the process is already long, and that with enough money it seems it can dragged out even longer.

But the alternative, if we rushed through the prices and gave the conservatives the ability to do so every time in return, would be horrific.

That's what I got from your post and, if I read it right, I think it was spot-on. I'd let 100 Trumps free than let them kangaroo-convict everyone else forever.