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I hate to be that guy, but not always exactly this. I have relatives that were born dirt poor but are now rich. You can definitely say they exploited people to get that way but the birth lottery gave them nothing financially
For every example like this there are a million examples of poor people staying poor.
Social mobility is much less than we like to pretend it is.
Not sure your point. Yes you can get rich ONLY exploiting the poor and don't need to be born rich.
I guess the op should have made it more of a venn diagram.
There are no innocent billionaires. They all trade human lives for profit every day.
My point is that oversimplification and being incorrect matters.
It gave them birth in a advanced nation and no disabilities
Which many other people including myself had and yet I'm not rich
The chart says that 50% get rich by exploitation and the other 50% by inheritance.
Edit: NVM, Im dumb and misread the meme. Still I doubt they were litterally "dirt poor" so birth lottery still applies.
For sure, never ever trust a wealthy person's origin story. Even trump and Musk claim to be self made.
Much better to go with the evidence of our eyes and ears.
They are self-made. It just took a small loan of a million dollar
Except I wasn't glorifying them. I actually think they aren't great people but go ahead and jerk yourself some more
You know nothing. I'm describing my great uncle, so I would have no reason to lie. No one else in the family is what you would call rich. I'm simply providing a factual counterexample because generalizing is the surest way to not understand nuance
Speaking of lacking nuance, claiming people "know nothing" isn't exactly the smartest thing you've ever said.
We have two things here:
A: I'm describing my great uncle
And
B: so I have no reason to lie.
How does one relate to the other? Is it unusual for people to lie about great uncles where you're from? Does this rule apply to, say, regular uncles? How about a great aunt? Does it apply to them too?
More seriously, the factual real world examples that can be proven and aren't just "trust me bro" all point to never being able to trust a wealthy persons origin story, even if it is someone's great uncle. However, that doesn't mean its literally untrue in every instance or yours.
The point is, even if 100% true in every capacity, it's so ultra rare and against such a rigged game that it might as well not be true. That is, if we plan on appreciating the true nuance of the situation.
Idiot, the person I referenced claimed you can't trust a rich person's origin story. It's not my story
You're just mad the simple narrative was threatened. I couldn't give a shit less what you believe
What a childish and hilariously ironic reply. I'm the person who said you can't trust a wealthy persons origin story. I said it because its true.
You challenged nothing. All you didn't was tell a baseless story that anyone could have made up. You give yourself too much credit if you think you either challenged anything anyone said or made me mad by it. It's pretty pathetic to have to pretend you've upset people.
Even if it was true, its like me saying "don't jump out of a 10 storey building, you'll probably die." and you replying "yeah, well, my great uncle jumped out of a 10 storey building and he didn't die." Like, cool story bro but you still shouldn't jump out of one and, also, no one cares about your tales.
How about second cousins, would you lie about them?
Tldr
Yeah, I wouldn't have had a good come back for what i said either.
You are dumb I agree. Because that's what it takes to make up stories about other people's lives to make yourself feel better.
These were people that literally grew up without indoor plumbing or electricity for years, in a community where owning a car meant you were rich. They were sharecroppers so they owned nothing and slaved away to make rich people money.
But sure they weren't dirt poor because some dickhead on the Internet wanted it to not be true so they could keep generalizing people different than them as all the same.
From your other comments I gather that these people were born about 2 generations ago. In a time of economic growth and prosperity, I count that as luck. Also, I said "I doubted it" mr. nuance.
Doubted based on nothing
I can almost guarantee you do not know a “rich” person per db0’s viewpoint
One does not reach the top by “treating employees fairly.”
I mean, I consider having 13 cars and 3 houses rich. But yeah it's a relative term