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[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 414 points 8 months ago (12 children)

When another poster asked, “Isn’t it possible that this was a deliberate terrorist attack rather than a tragic accident?,” Simon retorted, “It’s possible that you’re a useless shitheel rando on an internet hellsite speculating wildly and without regard to what is already known by authorities in Baltimore. Quick, have someone fund your podcast. You’ll go far.”

To a poster who called Baltimore a “mismanaged, failed state,” Simon offered a well-worded correction: “The port is a state-run entity and nothing whatsoever to do with Baltimore municipal government, you absolute submoron.”

To Anthony Sabatini, the former Florida congressman who wrote “DEI did this” – referring to diversity, equity and inclusion – Simon took no prisoners. “Your mother did you, but after a hard life of service on a truck-stop lot, can we really hold her loosened, battered womb responsible for dropping you head-first on the Winnebago floor and burdening our society with another empty, racist demagogue thereafter? We cannot.”

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 197 points 8 months ago (9 children)

If this is indicative of The Wire, I should watch it.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 77 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Sheeeeeeeit. You should definitely watch it.

Idris Elba started out on it. As did Dominic West (Prince Charles in The Crown), and Aidan Gillen (Littlefinger in Game of Thrones). And Michael Kenneth Williams had some choice parts, he was always great.

[–] SourDrink@lemmy.world 32 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Don't forget Michael B. Jordan baby facing it up in the first season

[–] statler_waldorf@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 months ago

WHERE WALLACE AT?

[–] eltrain123@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

“This…. Is bullshit.” RIP Lance Reddick

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)
[–] kboy101222@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 months ago
[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 70 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yes. Yes you should. It is a very realistic portrayal of crime, politics, and the police in Baltimore.

[–] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago

Not just Baltimore. It represents most major American cities and their institutions.

[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 42 points 8 months ago (4 children)

I envy your first watch. It's an incredible show. Only one I personally rank a slight notch higher is Deadwood.

[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

Agreed ... cocksucker.

[–] rdyoung@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago (3 children)
[–] jumjummy@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

IMHO the shield pales in comparison to the Wire. The wire is up there as one of my favorite shows of all time and I couldn’t really get into The Shield.

[–] rdyoung@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I had a tough time as well, I think it was the slow burn intro and the shaky camera work (that is actually technique). Try it again and it is most definitely some of the best television of all time. Right up there with breaking bad as well.

[–] Pips@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 8 months ago (3 children)

The Shield is very different. LA and Baltimore are very different culturally and it shows in the final product. The Shield also focuses on the one squad while The Wire is about the city of Baltimore. Of the two, I personally think The Shield is a little more cartoonish, so The Wire wins out, but The Shield is still excellent.

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[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Never watched it. Do you consider it on the same level?

[–] rdyoung@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Most definitely.

[–] swearengen@sopuli.xyz 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Both shows are at the top but Deadwood's dialogue has a deliberate rhythm to it that is unmatched. If you get on it's wave length you're in for a treat. I watch it at least once a year and never grow tired of it.

David Milch the creator details his thought process on the rhythm of the dialogue and the push back he got with use of obscenity here: https://youtu.be/F2qk7W8_KLE?si=LxeRNs2N_-kzKiGb&t=1196 (20:01) Once he's done answering that question (around 29:00) i'd stop watching if you haven't seen Deadwood as there are spoilers later in the talk.

[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Milch was wasted on TV, in a sense.

[–] swearengen@sopuli.xyz 2 points 8 months ago

Right, I think he had a lot more in the tank that we never got to see.

For years I was upset that Deadwood never had a fourth season. When I learned more about Milch and listened to his recent memoir that came out in 2022 I was just glad those first 3 seasons made it to air.

Many people don't survive all the drugs, family problems and a gambling addiction that he had going for him.

It would be cool to see the alternative universe where the other frat member becomes president or the one where Deadwood doesn't get cancelled but this one could be a lot worse really.

[–] Simon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Never heard Deadwood discussed anywhere. Will it challenge my Battlestar Galactica run?

[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Deadwood is the best written, most humane and complex drama I've seen on TV. Watch with subtitles because Milch is a genius and you don't want to miss anything.

[–] swearengen@sopuli.xyz 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

And you might still miss some things the first time but it makes rewatches even better. I rarely feel the desire to rewatch shows, even good ones, Deadwood is the exception.

Hell even the set is amazing because the background extras took their roles so seriously, listening to the commentary tracks the lead actors noted that the background extras/actors developed their own routines and really made the camp come to life.

It had more of a living history museum or renaissance fair vibe than that of a stale set. Everyone invovled with the project had passion for their role no matter how small.

[–] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Deadwood is better imo. But I don’t think Battlestar Galactica fans would necessarily agree.

Regardless, give it a shot!

[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 3 points 8 months ago

Deadwood is the closest a TV show has gotten to reading a rich, classic work of literature, to me. I've watched the entire series three times in about as many years.

[–] swearengen@sopuli.xyz 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

BSG is a very different show but there might be some crossover between the fanbases. Deadwood is legacy HBO, the quality and depth of cast is on another level compared to what the scifi channel had at the time.

It's also endlessly quotable, that's one thing I miss about reddit is the small /r/Deadwood sub. You'll see some general "cocksucka" quotes in the wild but that sub has multiple rewatches under their belt and uses the full range. I have to revist some posts there everytime I rewatch it.

Anyway, here's one of my favorites from Wild Bill in S01E04: https://webm.red/view/cn5t.webm

[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 2 points 8 months ago

Good ol' Charlie Utter. 🥹

One of my favorite, underrated short scenes is Al singing alone in his bar:

https://youtu.be/umWu96AZcAU?si=VUIjEOqx3R1FLgfA

[–] kaitco@lemmy.world 32 points 8 months ago

Dude! The Wire is the one of the best shows ever created! Watch on Max, rent DVDs from the library, or just do some normal piracy. You owe yourself a watch of The Wire.

Absolutely brilliant show. And yes, this is indicative of The Wire. 😅

[–] Tyfud@lemmy.world 26 points 8 months ago

You absolutely should.

[–] fiat_lux@kbin.social 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I finally gave in and watched it after multiple independent recommendations from people who had strong educated opinions on quality nuanced literature and media. The last series sort of declined a bit, but overall I was in no way disappointed. It was exceptionally well done, and importantly for me, not too watered down with tired tropes, stereotyped single dimensional characters, painfully predictable plots and neatly tidied moral threads.

I mean, there were definitely some, but, it's TV. It holds up extremely well even with age.

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

It's also had such a large cultural influence, many of those tropes come from it.

[–] Botzo@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

You're going to love Jay Landsman's (Delaney Williams) lines.

[–] SlapnutsGT@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

You should. I’ve been binging it the past few weeks and it’s amazing.

[–] PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 46 points 8 months ago

This man’s gift of insult is truly magical.

[–] Oderus@lemmy.world 34 points 8 months ago

Damn that's savage.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 30 points 8 months ago

Fucking savage.

And I'm gonna binge-watch the wire again.

[–] Late2TheParty@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago

I wish I had a mastery of the English language even half as good as this man. There's fucking POETRY in this!

[–] Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago

Holy shit man, that guy rips! I almost want to go piss him off to get my own!

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago

Goddamn. Glorious.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 14 points 8 months ago

Good God, someone call the Hague

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Those replies, especially the last one, are worthy of a Pulitzer.

[–] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago
[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago

I....I would like to wed this man.