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I don't like Biden either, but anyone with half a brain knows there are two choices in the 2020 election. If we had a sane voting system, voting third party might be worth it, but as it stands, no one but you knows your favorite candidate exists and unless you want to become their campaign manager that will still be true in November. Even if you did, and even if you convinced two thirds of the people who would otherwise have voted for Biden to vote for your chosen candidate instead, Trump would still win because half the country voted for him and your guy only got a third. If you vote third party you might as well stay home.

Not voting isn't going to stop the genocide in Gaza. The US will continue to funnel them arms no matter which candidate wins this November. Trump practically campaigns on how much he hates the Jews and he's publicly told Israel to "finish up their war". He'll also make life a living hell for anyone who isn't a straight cisgender male back here at home.

A vote for a candidate is not an endorsement of them or their policies, it's a statement that you like their policies more than the other guy's, and "sticking it to liberals" and "refusing to support genocide" (that's not what voting for Biden is doing, by the way -- a vote for either candidate is a vote for genocide and a vote for neither is an endorsement of both) is not more important than keeping the furthest right politician America has ever seen out of office.

How incredibly privileged do you have to be to see an entire national election as what will happen in the Middle East and ignore Trump's campaign promises to wipe transgender Americans off the map, and further, to not realize that the same thing will happen in the Middle East regardless of which candidate wins?

I hate Biden as much as every other leftist here. But I'll still vote for him because Trump is worse. If there's a single bone in your body that cares about the lives of your trans friends you will too.

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[–] Pan_Ziemniak@midwest.social 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

They recommend nothing at all.

Remember comrades,

-Direct action (strike, strike, strike, preferably imo, and hold ur surplus value hostage)

-Mutual aid

-Voting to ensure you can pursue the first 2 with minimal govt interference

All are acceptable avenues. All are necessary. None are mutually exclusive.

[–] juicy@lemmy.today 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Stop pretending to be a radical leftist when you support genocide: https://midwest.social/comment/8554707

“Support genocide” in this case means not abandoning a 70 year ally when our other allies are already worried we are fickle and support or dont support them based on whos in charge every 4 years.

[–] Pan_Ziemniak@midwest.social 4 points 7 months ago

Lol. Someone doesnt understand geopolitics.

We have an open trade agreement with israel. They want to buy, we say how much. I never said i supported it, but if ur curious ive been railing against the apartheid state for 15 years now simce back before i was a leftist. Doesnt change that there is no candidate thatd be capable of ending that policy on a whim.

[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The direct action is organizing. Creating communities and networks and advocacy. Being proactive and not fighting/alienating people.

[–] Pan_Ziemniak@midwest.social 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That sounds like mutual aid to me, whereas protesting/striking/[REDACTED] are direct action, but whatever, fuck the definitions. We clearly want the same. Keep organizing and building bridges, ur spot on.

[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Sorry, I didn’t mean to sound like I was arguing. I am agreeing with you.

[–] Pan_Ziemniak@midwest.social 3 points 7 months ago

Well.... i should save face somehow....hmmm.....

pursue mutual aid then, fuckface, since we must argue!!! I bet u hate that!!!1!🤬😡🤬😡

/s

Sorry too much internet