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Is TypeScript a fad or is my manager delusional? (feddit.dk)

submitted 8 months ago by SorteKanin@feddit.dk to c/programming@programming.dev

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I was talking to my manager the other day, discussing the languages we are using at $dayjob. He kind of offhandedly said that he thinks TypeScript is a temporary fad and soon everything will go back to using JavaScript. He doesn't like that it's made by Microsoft either.

I'm not a frontend developer so I don't really know, but my general impression is that everything is moving more and more towards TypeScript, not away from it. But maybe I'm wrong?

Does anyone who actually works with TypeScript have any impression about this?

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[–] cbarrick@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You have no idea. Python (and Ruby) are used widely in the industry. Large parts of YouTube are written in Python, and large parts of GitHub are written in Ruby. And every major tech company is using Python in their offline data pipelines.

I know of systems critical to the modern web that are written in Python.

[+] kameecoding@lemmy.world -17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

With how shit youtube is I am not sure you made a great case for python mate.

And every major tech company is using Python in their offline data pipelines

Thats a meaningless statement, ETL tools can execute python as part of a multi step process and then yeah they use python in their data pipeline, but the ETL tool that orchestrates it is which is the actual value add software is not written in Python it's written in Java, I know this for a fact...

[–] RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

With how shit youtube is I am not sure you made a great case for python mate.

I'm not good with names about logical fallacies but that sure is one. You asked for "actual projects" and YouTube is one of the biggest and most popular platforms out there. That you personally dislike it is irrelevant.

ETL tools can execute python as part of a multi step process and then yeah they use python in their data pipeline, but the ETL tool that orchestrates it is which is the actual value add software is not written in Python it's written in Java

So what's your point, that interpreted languages don't count because they're interpreted? Why stop there? It's the actual C compiler that was used to compile the JRE that brings the value here, so your ETL tool doesn't count.

You're either a troll or a joke.

[+] kameecoding@lemmy.world -11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If you dont know the difference between software and script I am not sure I can explain it to you...

[–] RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That distinction is not relevant at all in this discussion.

But hey, I think that's one I know: should count as a strawman.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world -4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

How is it not relevant? This is my comment you are replying to

It's not a fad, it's just unusable for anything other than research project and small time scripting, which to be fair, it's what it's designed for.

[–] RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm sorry, apparently I missed that because of your dismissal of YouTube.

To make up for it I have another small scripting example for you: the Instagram backend runs on Python, too.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world -5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

So, to my example of critical, important infrastructure of government and banking running on Java, your reply is, youtube and instagram.

That's lit mate, no cap, frfr. (Sorry I am not that familiar with your gen's slang)

[–] RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

No, I'm not going to follow your logical retreat any longer. You said

it's [Python] just unusable for anything other than research project and small time scripting

You were presented with not small but big time scripting and two of the largest and most popular modern web platforms of the world (BTW I neither use nor like those myself but that's, as mentioned, irrelevant) and still cannot admit you're wrong, so I don't think you would even if I dug out some examples in "serious" fields (apparently building trillion dollar companies on such platforms isn't serious enough).

Also never assume generations. According to social media demographics, odds are I'm older than you.

[–] cbarrick@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

And my example of knowing critical systems for the web written in Python is somehow different from your argument?

What a joke