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We are now over 200 users and may see significantly more in the coming days and weeks.

Our instance is new, Lemmy is new to most of us, and there just isn't the history needed to approach appropriate people and ask them to be moderators. So I'm taking applications instead.

It's worth noting that moderation has not been an issue for us so far, but I'd like to be prepared.

There are two types of moderators I'm looking for. It will be easier to find the first than the second, so for the first type I'm keen to find people not in an NZ time zone to cover times when NZ is normally asleep. The types I've after are:

  1. Remove obviously not allowed content:
  • Trolling or posts obviously trying to cause harm
  • Animal abuse
  • CSAM
  • Doxing and violations of court ordered name suppressions
  • Any other content illegal in NZ
  1. Grey area moderators

Rather than just banning people that don't agree, I want to foster a community where everyone that wants to participate in good faith can, regardless of their views. I want this to be a community where everyone feels safe to be themselves. This can sound contradictory, but as long as we can attack ideas and not people, I believe there is a possibility to find our spot somewhere along this path.

This means that I don't want to ban users that use derogatory terms, I want it to be the start of a discussion about why they are hurtful. I don't want to remove racist comments, I want it to be the start of a discussion about what is and isn't acceptable in our community. If everyone acts in good faith, we should be able to have these discussions respectfully. If people start commenting in bad faith, then this may require more traditional moderator interventions (e.g. temporary or permanent bans, and potential removal of content). Note that moderator actions are transparent, and listed in the "Modlog" linked at the bottom of every page (this includes moderator actions on other instances to some extent).

So I am taking applications from people willing to facilitate the discussions for this second type of content. I recognise this is a much bigger burden than the first type, but I hope we will have some volunteers willing to give it a go.

If you want to volunteer, note that a requirement will be that you're willing and able to join a private Matrix chat room for moderators and admins where discussion can happen. This will be helpful for type 1 moderators too, in case there is confusion over what is type 1 content.

Note that moderators can be by community. If you're keen to moderate e.g. just !wellington@lemmy.nz, then please include this in your "application".

No need for life stories, just comment on your interest and, if relevant, some history or background of your moderation activities. You can reply here or DM me if you don't want to post publicly, either is fine.

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[–] rimu 11 points 1 year ago (13 children)

We cannot have a good-faith discussion with nazis (or tankies), that's a losing proposition from the outset. We do not need to have a discussion about why the N word is a beyond the pale. We do not need to have a discussion about why genocide denial is wrong. Doing so just gives those ideas a platform.

The only response to those people that saves moderation energy for more productive activities is the ban hammer. Cut it off at the source.

[–] Dave 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I do not disagree. But I also think that many commonly used terms can stop people feeling safe and respected, and these should prompt a discussion.

I also don't think we can know where the line is just yet, but I agree that extreme left or right viewpoints are typically not able to be had in good faith, and we don't want to give them a platform. We do have to be careful, because traditionally non-mainstream platforms were where people went when they were kicked off reddit, not people who wanted to leave. However, overt nazism is not the only way to be racist, and often it can happen without thought.

I'm keen to find people willing to help me get this balance right - I am against banning anyone who disagrees with the opinions of the general consensus.

[–] ycnz 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd question the extreme left vs extreme right approach - extreme left views tend to be "what if we had UBI" or "can communism work?"

The extreme right is arguing about people's right to exist. They're not equivalent.

[–] Dave 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would not consider "what if we had UBI" to be extreme left.

Extreme left to me is authorotarian, Marxism-Leninism style oppression. But I'll admit the term is used to mean different things.

[–] ycnz 3 points 1 year ago

No problem with banning authoritarianism. Say no to the Holodomor.

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