Isn't that the one that OP is talking about? I'm not aware of any other major ones, other than the great piracy community on dbzer0 that OP recently learned about.
Dave
So, ignoring we know they did bad:
Is it really suitable to risk cleaning it then transporting consumable food items in it? Especially one that was carrying lead of all things?
I am not an expert. I could not tell you whether the triple rub and dub scrub (or whatever) routine is the industry standard procedure, I guess that's for MPI to determine. So I try not to judge based on how it sounds.
Also the fact they didn’t even detect the extent of the lead contamination until after it had already been used in production.
Again, I'm not an expert. Is the standard process that they do a test for every bag? Every sack? Once for the boat? Is lead testing even a standard test for sugar? If they followed an industry standard process, and that process failed, then that's an MPI problem. In this case it sounds like they did not, but I was trying to give the benefit of the doubt.
I’m not saying they should be made bankrupt, but it should probably have more impact than “the cost of doing business”
Yeah, I don't think I took in the article the first time I read it. This seems like there was a clear violation of what they should be doing, and that's why MPI brought charges. $150k seems very low. I bet the MPI staff time to bring about the charges cost significantly more than that.
This might be an agree to disagree situation but if the company runs for 50 years and has one mistake like this, I don't think the intent should be to bankrupt them because they screwed up.
I screw up in my job from time to time and no one is firing me because mistakes happen and we learn from them.
For a bit more info, Lemmy communicates with other instances with a protocol called ActivityPub.
ActivityPub it not just used by Lemmy, but also by Mastodon, Pixelfed, Peertube, etc. While it doesn't always play nice because of the specifics, it's possible for example to subscribe to a Lemmy community from Mastodon (Lemmy currently doesn't support the other direction, following a Mastodon user using your Lemmy account, but this is mostly only because no one has built it for Lemmy).
ActivityPub works by sending information to other servers (e.g. posts, comments, votes). Each server keeps a copy of everything federated to it (not every server gets everything, it's subscription based, so all servers aren't exact copies).
So with all instances having local copies, this means anyone with access to the database (e.g. the person running the instance) can simply look at the votes and see who voted which way. Since anyone can run an instance, this is one layer in which votes are public. Instance admins can actually see the individual votes right in the UI (hidden under some clicks).
Now I mentioned other software like Mastodon earlier. Mastodon is twitter-like. Lemmy is reddit-like. But there is also other software that is similar to Lemmy. Mbin and Piefed come to mind. These also run ActivityPub and receive all posts, comments, votes like a Lemmy instance, but they aren't Lemmy. They can decide what do do with the information, including showing it to their users. But there is very little Lemmy can do to stop this since they aren't running Lemmy software.
For this reason many think Lemmy should show the votes so people don't assume no one can see them became they can't.
Ah thanks, that gives me something to research.
It could be a case of the planned ship broke down and they needed an alternative. If they swapped to a different ship and it turned out it was contaminated, that's one thing. But being told it's not suitable and using anyway is a whole nother level.
Edit: or did it mean they were told it's not suitable, then they had it cleaned and the cleanliness report said it was fine but it actually wasn't? That's different again.
My argument was "we don't know the detail so let's give some benefit of the doubt". But I missed that part, if they knew they shouldn't and did it anyway then $150k does not seem big enough.
Would that be two disks under a type of RAID or does ZFS have something?
If one company spends millions trying to do the right thing and got driven to bankruptcy by a mistake that could have happened to any large company, the other companies might instead just not do anything except the bare minimum then spend that money on insurance.
Edit: this is now hypothetical as it's been pointed out to me they were not trying to do the right thing.
Yeah that's an idea. It does seem like I'd need a lot of disks though. And I don't actually have a disk reader or writer at all at the moment.
Yeah from some other comments I think my initial plan (that I'll research some more) will be:
- buy a new HDD, format with ZFS or btrfs for error correction
- copy data onto drive
- store in cupboard with sata-> USB cable and instructions about what it is, how to access .
- every year, load the previous year's data onto the drive
- about every 5 years, replace the drive by copying onto a brand new one (timeframe will likely depend on when my other HDD drives die)
This way I should get a chance to update storage medium as technology changes as well.
The thread you mention has a reply saying there's already an extension to do it via Rclone.