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Young voters aren't warming up to Biden. They know it means Trump could win again.
(www.usatoday.com)
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If Bernie can't beat Hillary Clinton in 2016 primaries when only leftists+moderates are voting, why the fuck would he win in the general election when we start including right and far-rifght people in America?
The fact is, the Democratic Party primaries are the best for a far-left person like Bernie. (Much like how far-right candidates have the biggest advantage during Republican primaries). If you can't move the votes in the primary, its impossible to win during the general election.
If progressives are so insignificant that the party can ignore them, you don't get to blame them for Clinton's loss. She was so useless as a candidate that she had to be carried across the line in the primaries by a party that argued in court that their primaries didn't need to be honest, and then forgot that she wasn't still being carried in the general.
Democrats would rather lose than debase themselves by appealing to the progressives they hold in utter contempt.
Yes I can. A significant minority of Bernie Bros are Sanders–Trump voters in both 2016 and 2020. LITERALLY participating and specifically supporting Trump.
Get out of here with the lack of responsibility.
Not significant enough to throw the election to Trump like you're claiming. But it beats admitting Clinton was shit, so you'll blame progressives for the loss she worked so hard to earn. To put a finer point on it, a greater percentage of Clinton supporters voted for McCain in 2008. They even formed a PAC to try to elect McCain.
Sanders supporters overwhelmingly voted for Clinton in 2016 and Biden in 2020. Clinton supporters actively worked against Obama in 2008. Centrists got their third choice in 2008 and their second choice in 2016.
I'm Republican yo. You would have lost my vote if you put Sanders on the ticket.
And that's closer to my demographic. A lot of what McCain said (ex: the Ukrainian situation) has come true in the past decade, and has proven Obama to have been a naive fool.
You have my support, for now, as long as Republicans are dumbasses with Trump and as long as you keep a moderate (like Biden or Clinton) as your #1 ticket. But my support for Democrats may be somewhat temporary but its better than nothing.
Oh, that certainly explains why your positions are indistinguishable from centrists.