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I mean in those areas where it just identical houses along a road in huge blocks.

How would you realisyicly solve it?

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[–] TimtheTimTim@midwest.social 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It kinda depends on what you mean by "solved". You could have a bus route stop at every person house. This would be expensive, frequency would be abysmal, and the routes would take forever and no one would use it.

This issue is that public transit thrives in areas with more density. Get rid of the density public transit ceases to exist.

A more realistic solution for most people would be to try and set up a bike network throughout the neighborhood. Biking, especially e-biking, is mode of transit that can be implemented almost anywhere in a city and have some big benefits to the citizens.

[–] LanternEverywhere@kbin.social 4 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I wonder if this might be a situation where autonomous vehicles could really solve a problem. Like if there were like 2 or 3 minivan size vehicles that you could summon to ferry you from your house to the nearest real bus stop. The vehicle would only have to go like 20 miles an hour to make it safe for pedestrians and be compellingly worthwhile to make people take the bus instead of drive

[–] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 7 months ago

In smaller mexican cities instead of huge busses they have smaller 10 person vehicles that run every 15ish minutes. Terrible for the environment cause it's more cars but better for public transit cause they're consistent and come more often.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Could just have a human driver. I think the impromptu routing would be the thing that works best for suburbs.

[–] Uranium3006@kbin.social 1 points 7 months ago

do that and make trips to or from a train stop half price to encourage using it as a last mile to funnel into a public transit system

[–] LanternEverywhere@kbin.social 1 points 7 months ago

3 human drivers 24/7 would be too expensive. And suburb subdivisions are perfect for autonomous systems, it's a very unchanging route with rarely any other people or cars on the road and the speed limit is already capped at a very low number

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

You want the shuttle available as completely as the bus.

In a given neighborhood there could be many hours only a few / no people need the shuttle. It would be hard to staff.

Be cooler to make a protected shuttle lane where the shuttle operates under very strict controlled parameters.

[–] bluGill@kbin.social 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

who knows if when they will exist. if they exist they will probably work.

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[–] bluGill@kbin.social 2 points 7 months ago

In a few specific areas. None within 1000 miles of my city., the tech is promissing, but only time will tell how far it gets.

If you live where it exists then you should be asking questions. It seems like a dream answer.

[–] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 0 points 7 months ago

Get rid of cars and their awful infrastructure and density can comfortably go up.