World News
A community for discussing events around the World
Rules:
-
Rule 1: posts have the following requirements:
- Post news articles only
- Video links are NOT articles and will be removed.
- Title must match the article headline
- Not United States Internal News
- Recent (Past 30 Days)
- Screenshots/links to other social media sites (Twitter/X/Facebook/Youtube/reddit, etc.) are explicitly forbidden, as are link shorteners.
-
Rule 2: Do not copy the entire article into your post. The key points in 1-2 paragraphs is allowed (even encouraged!), but large segments of articles posted in the body will result in the post being removed. If you have to stop and think "Is this fair use?", it probably isn't. Archive links, especially the ones created on link submission, are absolutely allowed but those that avoid paywalls are not.
-
Rule 3: Opinions articles, or Articles based on misinformation/propaganda may be removed. Sources that have a Low or Very Low factual reporting rating or MBFC Credibility Rating may be removed.
-
Rule 4: Posts or comments that are homophobic, transphobic, racist, sexist, anti-religious, or ableist will be removed. “Ironic” prejudice is just prejudiced.
-
Posts and comments must abide by the lemmy.world terms of service UPDATED AS OF 10/19
-
Rule 5: Keep it civil. It's OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It's NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
-
Rule 6: Memes, spam, other low effort posting, reposts, misinformation, advocating violence, off-topic, trolling, offensive, regarding the moderators or meta in content may be removed at any time.
-
Rule 7: We didn't USED to need a rule about how many posts one could make in a day, then someone posted NINETEEN articles in a single day. Not comments, FULL ARTICLES. If you're posting more than say, 10 or so, consider going outside and touching grass. We reserve the right to limit over-posting so a single user does not dominate the front page.
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
Lemmy World Partners
News !news@lemmy.world
Politics !politics@lemmy.world
World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world
Recommendations
For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/
- Consider including the article’s mediabiasfactcheck.com/ link
view the rest of the comments
And I'll add back in the context that you're desperate to jettison.
Let's look at a situation that resembles the real world:
Elon Musk earns about $1.5 billion dollars/year with an estimated net worth of about $150 billion.
The median American income is about $70k/year with an estimated net worth of $193k
Musk should be taxed at 90% like we did for top earners during the biggest economic expansion in our nation's history.
And that wasn't my point; you're trying to change the argument because you know you're wrong.
I would love for you to point out where I said I wouldn't be willing to pay more in taxes. This accusation is a confession, it seems.
False. Elon does not earn $1.5 billion a year. That is not his income. His net worth has nothing to do with his income.
That is also false. Income was taxed at 90%, not wealth. We have never taxed wealth because it is unconstitutional. Also, the tax code was very different back then, and only 1 person ever paid that level of tax. People had many more deductions than they do now.
How much more do you think your tax bracket should pay to keep the current rates for all the other brackets?
"buy borrow die" is totally income, dude. It's just not taxed, and step-up basis makes it worse.
The net worth is used to fund everyday expenses, it is effectively income.
If Bernie wasn't so dumb, that is where he would focus his angst. I suspect few people really understand that is how Elon supports himself through loans and not income.
One day, those loans have to be called, but until then, there is no income.
I wouldn't be surprised if those loans are repaid without realizing the gain of the collateral. Step-up basis is a huge tax dodge, and tax dodge is theft from all the people who would benefit from the things those taxes could pay for.
The way the rich use loans as income is unfair. Therefore the rich do not pay their fair share.
It would be interesting to see how many of the rich are using loans to bypass taxes.
I have only heard of a few cases dealing with tech wealthy people who are paid mainly in stock.
I do think it is an issue and something should be done about it.
It is a fallout from being a public company and we can regulate that much easier.
I think our whole tax system needs to be burned down and replaced.
If you agree the system is broken I encourage you to reconsider your prior statements about the rich not paying their fair share.
Rich people do a variety of shady stuff and keep it hidden (Panama papers), I wouldn't trust your lack of data points to mean it isn't a pervasive problem.
That’s moving the goalpost.
The pay their fair share of income tax.
The issue is there is a way to avoid income.
That’s the problem we need to solve. Technically they’re taking on debt to avoid taxes. Sounds reasonable but those are loans we couldn’t get. It’s just a tax avoidance system.
I'm done pretending you're a serious person arguing seriously.
Anyone can say "nuh-uh."
I also never said wealth was taxed. I said his income should be taxed (in response to your question).
You're misrepresenting my argument at every step like you always do. Your sealion question at the end is irrelevant; you have no idea how much I earn, and I'm not here to impress Internet strangers like you seem to be. Bet you're real close to that billion though if you keep grinding!
Bet it burns you up that you can't ban me from here.
Then, be more clear. Don't blame me because you can't articulate your thoughts well. You are talking about wealth but claim you are not talking about wealth. Elon does not earn $1.5 billion per year. That is factually inaccurate.
Funny how you're always the only one who has trouble understanding me.
That isn't true at all.
So can you back up any of your claims like Elon makes 1.5 billion a year in income or are we just done for now?
If I did would it change your mind?
If not, why should I bother? This isn't germaine, it's a distraction because you don't want to argue the actual point.
Stop trying to turn this into a discussion about me. I am acting in good faith.
You can't just make a claim and then refuse to back it while trying to have a real discussion.
You will see someone else brought up loans, and I agree that is an issue. That is why the ultra-wealthy can avoid taxes, and that is a problem we can solve without violating the Constitution.
Would it change your mind?
If not, it's irrelevant. So why are you so hung up on that?
You're playing games because you don't want to discuss the actual issue.
Fair enough, I understand you'll lose the debate.
Why do you keep avoiding the topic?
You made a claim that Elon is making $1.5 billion in income. If it wasn't important then why did you bring it up?
Anyway, I will chalk this up to you not understanding income, wealth, and taxes.
If you want to have a serious discussion, come back with some actual cites for your claim to discuss.
The irony burns