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[–] Wiz@midwest.social 66 points 7 months ago (2 children)

UBH!

(Universal Basic Housing)

All these Universal Basic * programs seem to work, and the only things holding them back are rich people not wanting to be taxed, and the people they have brainwashed into supporting them.

[–] cordlesslamp@lemmy.today 26 points 7 months ago (2 children)

idk, America seems to push Universal Basic Gun Owning pretty hard. Can't say that it's helping anyone tho.

[–] Agrivar@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Hah! I almost wish that were true, just so more poor leftists would arm themselves. Guns (and ammo) are fucking expensive and there are no subsidies.

[–] ljubashin@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 months ago (3 children)

As a European, how much does it actually cost to buy a gun in US?

[–] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

A 9mm handgun can be as cheap as $100, however that is for a quite poor quality gun (hipoint). For something that is more standard, higher quality handgun like the Glock 19 is around $500.

There are some additional fees, if you buy online you have to have it shipped to an FFA which may charge you, in my state, you either need a conceal carry permit, or a 'pistol purchase permit' the conceal carry is like a lifetime pass to buy guns, with the idea being you proved you can be safe by doing the CCW courses and exams. The pistol purchase permit is like $15 and involves a background check.

Private sales require no ancillary permits or anything, so a used hi point 9mm could probably realistically be as low as $50-$75 if it were quite beat up.

A box of ammo for a 9mm may cost around $20 for 20 bullets depending on where you live and such.

That seems cheap and it is. But for regular use at a shooting range for example, a single box would only last a couple a minutes. If you wanted to go for an 'all day' thing at the range, it would cost $100-$200 (about 200 rounds) plus the fees for the range, $20 - $100 depending on the place, unless you have safe private property. Though with a hi point, it will probably fall apart before you get 200 rounds through it 😅.

Things do get real expensive though for people like shooting as a hobby, as more exotic ammo can get very expensive ($10-$15 a bullet or even higher)

[–] franklin@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)
[–] wahming@monyet.cc 1 points 7 months ago

Jeez, that's way more expensive than I expected, especially the ammo. How is shooting that common of a hobby in the states with those prices?

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Remember, the US is huge. It costs different things in different areas. In Silicon Valley, the cost seems to be around two hundred ipads.

that was for 4 concealed carry permits, so 50 ipads per permit. i'm pretty sure that the guns themselves are a hell of a lot cheaper lol

[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

But people might be lazy without the constant looming threat of exposure and humiliation.

[–] Wiz@midwest.social 4 points 7 months ago

It might be interesting to see. Let's try giving people the basic necessities for once, and see how things work out!