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What happens in November is up to Biden – it will not be the fault of the protest voter if Trump is elected. The questions remain: does the Democratic party fear Trump as much as we do? And does it value its voters enough to shift away from an approach to the onslaught in Gaza that a majority of Democratic voters are against?

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[–] orcrist@lemm.ee -3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

In the short term, your position is justifiable. But in the long term, it's anti-democratic. The reasoning you've provided here has been used for many elections in the past and can be used forever into the future. But if we're forced to choose between two bad parties, and there's never a chance of a third party accomplishing anything good, then nobody will ever represent us.

And if we're stuck in a non-democracy forever, then it makes sense for people to pursue other more radical solutions. Is that what you want? It's the natural implication of your message.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Okay, whatever, while you're planning your grand revolution thing can you please for fucks sake vote for the option that kills fewer kids?

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Your desire to support the two-party system above all else is what leads to alienation, on the right and on the left. It's you who is pushing the country towards a grand revolution, not me.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The two party system is, it doesn't need my support and your abstaining from participation will not harm it. The two party system will chug merrily along until Republicans end democracy.

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Your comments are contradictory. First you say I should vote, and then you say it's pointless. Meh.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's only pointless if you don't care who wins. Voting won't change the two party system, at least not directly and not any time soon. It will change who wins this November, and that's a very important thing.

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Oh, I'm going to vote. But also my vote won't change anything. Not a swing state, never was, minority vote. Meh.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Not just President, there's plenty of downballot races too. Congress is arguably more important than the Presidency, generally.

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

Right, same story on my end, stuck in the minority there too, always have been...