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[–] Cypher19@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

What’s the alternative, give the country over to Trump and his sycophants? No one likes what’s happening but as much as I want a change in the current trajectory everything would just be worse under Trump, not just Palestinian conflict.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago

There is no alternative. Helping the democrats maintain the delusion that they can be the party of fascism-lite and still win elections is not a viable strategy to win elections.

Telling the dems "You restarted student loans, anything short of forgiving all student debt is literally worse than what we had under trump, if you want to get elected, ending the additional harm you caused is a minimum" until they start doing the things they need to do to get elected is the only way they will get elected.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The alternative is to pressure the democrats into doing the things they need to do to win the election. Currently they are laboring under the delusion that they can win just by saying "Oh, we want the things you want, we're just powerless until you give us uhhh 50% in the senate! No 61! No, 64 because of Fetterman, Sinoma, and Manchin! You can do it, just vote a little harder and we'll stop doing the opposite of what you elected us to do!" and "Well trump would also do the horrible things we're doing, so you have to vote for us".

That's why they lost in 2016 and 2022, and trying to silence criticism just helps them maintain that delusion.