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[–] geogle@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

I hope no reputable school is doing that badly these days but point taken

[–] ornery_chemist@mander.xyz 21 points 7 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

My take-home was $1700-2100/mo after taxes and fees depending on whether I was teaching that semester (teaching paid less). We were paid just above minimum wage (at the time $15.50/h, CA MW = $15/h) on the basis of 8 h/day, 5 days/wk, 52 wks/y (lmao). Rent split 4 ways was ~~$1500~~ ~$1200 per person, and that was the lowest of anyone I knew. UC Berkeley PhD 2022.

Edit: Checked my admission letter, turns out it was actually $15.50/h. Also got decent health insurance, at least until UCPath fucked it up. Livin' the high life.

[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 3 points 7 months ago

Congrats on successfully defeating your thesis!

[–] acetanilide@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

When I was working on mine I was making $1800 and rent was only ~$720 for a 2 bed. I think that included pet rent too.

The mental toll however...(Hundreds of thousands of dollars in insurance claims later, probably more)

[–] pleb_maximus@feddit.de 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I think that included pet rent too.

It included the what now?

[–] 9000r@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Its not uncommon for apartment complexes to charge another small monthly fee to have a pet (usually specifically a cat or dog) in the unit. I'm also paying a pet rent and its like $20-30 where I live. Is it BS? Definitely.

[–] acetanilide@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah so you have to pay an extra monthly "rent" PER PET (not to mention the extra deposits! Yes plural)

I was looking at a place the other day. 2 bedroom apartment in a shitty area. I didn't take notes on all the costs but this is what I have:

Application Fee: $50 per applicant

Rent: ~~$1450~~ $2115

Security Deposit: ~~$1450~~ $2115

Nonrefundable Pet Deposit per pet: $300

Pet Deposit per pet: $200

Pet Rent per pet: $25

No utilities included

Edit: misremembered the rent by a lot

[–] pleb_maximus@feddit.de 2 points 6 months ago

Absolutely wild.

[–] baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Unfortunately this is still the case in all the universities I know, especially in fine arts and humanity, many of the positions are even unfunded. Many students need to sublease their living room or live in a single bedroom in a house, with shared kitchen and bathroom.

I think many less-well-funded students literally cannot afford a studio or 1B, because the rent will be higher than their salary. Even for CS, math, and bio, the rent of a 1B will still be very close to their stipend.

For reference, I work in the department with the highest pay in my entire school, and my school is an extremely well-funded Tier 1 ~ Tier 2 school in the U.S. I make less than 2k8 after tax, and 1B at the outskirt of my city (40 mins walk to university) cost around 2k2 per month. Of course, an rat-free apartment will cost much more.

Even for these extremely well-funded departments in extremely well-funded schools, almost all of the PhD students are still paid under the living wage. See https://csstipendrankings.org/ .

To summarize: of the 60 schools listed,only 1/3 are paying their CS PhD students a living wage. Schools not paying a living wage include Havard, MIT, Stanford, Columbia, UChicago, and many more.

This is why you see so many grad worker strike in recent years.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

also why the bulk of those students in those subjects come almost exclusively from wealthy families....

[–] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I went to a state university and I was paid about $1,000 a month as a graduate student researcher, while living in a $1,700 a month dorm.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

yeah i was in grad school 10 years ago. I made about $1000/mo, and my rent was about 900. After food and other necessities, I was losing about 300-400 a month.

If i was in school today, I'm confident I'd be making 1200/mo and my rent would be about $2000.