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[–] VonCesaw@lemmy.world 27 points 6 months ago (4 children)

imo for pedants like myself, it needs to be made clear if the bear is LIKELY to harm you

If its a black bear, red panda, or the like that is not even fair, EVERYONE would rather be with a bear that doesnt want to be near you rather than some potentially dangerous rando

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago

From what I've read, unless you're doing something like going between a mother and her cubs, if it's not a grizzly or polar bear, it's likely more scared of you than you are of it.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

red panda

I don't think that's a concern, because pandas (red or otherwise) aren't technically part of the Ursidae family and wouldn't qualify.

I'll spot you that polar bears and brown bears would likely be more of a problem in person. I believe the other kind of bear could conceivably be more of a threat online, but only because they tend to have sharper wits and tongues than the heterosexuals in their genus.

[–] idiomaddict@feddit.de 11 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Pandas are ursidae, but not ursinae

[–] Klear@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Here's the thing. You said a "red pandas are ursidae." Are they in the same order? Yes. No one's arguing that. As someone who is a scientist who studies red pandas, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls red pandas bears. If you want to be "specific" like you said, then you shouldn't either. They're not the same thing. If you're saying "bear family" you're referring to the taxonomic grouping of ursidae, which includes things from short-faced bears to dog bears to giant pandas. So your reasoning for calling a red panda a bear is because random people "call the cuddly ones bears?" Let's get raccoons and koalas in there, then, too. Also, calling someone a human or an ape? It's not one or the other, that's not how taxonomy works. They're both. A red panda is a red panda and a member of the ailuridae family. But that's not what you said. You said red pandas are ursidae, which is not true unless you're okay with calling all members of the carnivora order bears, which means you'd call cats, dogs, and other mammals bears, too. Which you said you don't. It's okay to just admit you're wrong, you know?

[–] idiomaddict@feddit.de 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

(I said pandas are ursidae, not red pandas, but I liked your passion!)

Edit: I forgot about jackdaws

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Red Pandas are Ailuridae. So even farther away.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That is probably their point though.

Too many humans act like dangerous randos (men and women alike, but men are usually more physical), so being near a bear that for the most time just fucks off and mind their own business is more preferred.

[–] HauntedCupcake@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Yes, but you encounter at least 1000 people a year, assuming you leave the house. Most people never encounter a wild bear.

If a bear doesn't kill you 99.9% of the time, and a man doesn't kill you 99.999% of the time. Which would you rather have 1000 encounters with?

The "point" is that men are dangerous, it's just being poorly made and is clear rage bait.

This feels a lot like a certain image board talking about FBI crime statistics

[–] Damage@feddit.it 1 points 6 months ago

it's strange tho. could it be strangely rabid?