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[–] Pronell@lemmy.world 67 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I never hated Skylar, but I get why she's in the meme. Anna Gunn does severe so damn well.

I also don't mind Dolores Umbridge's actress because I hated her in the book far, far more.

Jack Gleeson should come back and give it a shot again. And I can't tell who the other one is.

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 45 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

Jeffery Dean Morgan as Neegan (sp) in The Walking Dead.

I think his role as the Comedian in The Watchmen was more hatable, at least the character was pretty awful in a grounded way instead of the silly over the top Walking Dead kind of way.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 28 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

That character was so well done (The Comedian, I don't remember Walking Dead well enough). He's more tragedy than contemptable depending on your sympathies, but that was kinda' the point. It's almost the point of ANY "good" bad character. Give them motivations that are understandable by non-psychos, just make the character make poor (poor, not stupid) or mean decisions.

... and his acting helped round out the character instead of flatten. He genuinely seemed like a good guy that got insanely jaded and went off the deep instead of just a bad guy.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

He was contemptible as Neegan. Very well played.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

I think he was only starting to be introduced by the time I wandered away from the walking dead. Though the little I remember, he was definitely all asshole and killing it.

[–] errer@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Good-looking bad people are always liked no matter how badly behaved their characters are.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

I'm not sure that applies to The Comedian, but then I'm not particularly attracted to guys, and some people find some weird looks downright hot.

... Though I still hate how right you are. Looks or power. People respect them when they should NEVER respect looks or power. Ever. Sure, many good looking people are respectable, but not because of looks. It's NEVER looks or simply having power (or money) that makes someone respectable.

Heck, maybe the problem is people conflate "like" with "respect", like I did above. Or maybe the problem is those words aren't so different in practice...

[–] chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 months ago

The Comedian was my favorite character from Watchmen. Not because I think he was good, misunderstood, or any kind of role model. I just found him very compelling.

[–] ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

That movie is so fucking good and Jeffrey Dean Morgan absolutely killed it as the comedian.

[–] Pronell@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I never watched that show, thank you.

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 13 points 6 months ago

I stopped when he showed up, not because of him as I enjoyed him in other roles, but because it was when two of the last three characters I enjoyed watching were killed off. One character wasn't enough to keep me interested, and it was looking like they were just going to be doing the Governor 2.0 with how much they were playing him up.

He was also great as the Winchester's dad in the early seasons of Supernatural.

[–] scutiger@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

The Comedian somewhat repented though. He hated himself for all the evil he'd done. He was awful, but at least he realized how awful he'd been in the past and felt bad about it.

[–] Igloojoe@lemm.ee 15 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Skylar wasn't even evil or anything. Just a normal good person. Walter was an absolute piece of shit who chose to reject legitimate help and support, and instead do illegal villainous things.

[–] Pronell@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

But that's also the mark of a well written show, when you're compelled to take the side of a man making the wrong choices, to walk that line with him. And then be yanked the fuck back by the writers at the end.

"I did it for me. I did it because I was good at it."

Masterful.

[–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 1 points 6 months ago

Do good people fuck Bob?

[–] scops@reddthat.com 4 points 6 months ago

Jack Gleeson is acting again. I saw him pop up in the last season of Sex Education in a small role.