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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It doesn't. This is our american bed. Lay in it. This is what happens when lobbyists and affluent people are allowed to place hundreds of millions of free speech into the pockets of politicians. This is what happens when religion and government mix, even slightly. The only chance those people have of America ending support tomorrow is a violent uprising that would most likely make everything worse for every American. Pick your poison, they all cause death.

[–] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Wow, what agreat sales pitch to encourage people to vote for the guy who's killing their family members...

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Go ahead and bury your head in the sand then. You know what? Just go vote for Trump. You'll love it.

[–] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I'm definitely not voting for Trump. I live in a blue state where my vote doesn't matter anyway. I'm just saying, you guys aren't helping as much as you think you are. Look at it from their point of view. They're not thinking rationally, and honestly, I don't expect them to. It's an emotionally charged situation when people you know or people like you are being genocided. The effort would be better spent trying to force Biden to change tactics on supporting Israel before election day.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Oh believe me I did the uncommitted thing too. There are just other remedies than voting for Trump and fucking all of us.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If the choice is between just them being fucked and everyone being fucked, there's plenty of people who would choose the latter, especially if that threat could potentially be used to reduce their fucking. Maybe just try to do something to help people whose families are dying instead of pleading for them to think of you?

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

"That shit over there is killing my family, let me bring it to where I live."

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

a) That you need to enhance a Trump victory to him bombing US cities has to induce some minimal recognition that you're going far off course.

b) That you think people wouldn't risk their lives to save their family really speaks to how dumb it is to stick your head into their business. It's just a hypothetical in a game theory thought argument to you, not actual people.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That b point sounds like a wild assumption. Israel is ruled by a right wing extremist party. Can you see how we don't want a right wing extremist party to take control here? That's the relation. No game theory hypothetical.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The right wing party is killing people outside of Israel. Most Israelis are perfect fine with the bloodshed, just as most Americans were happy with our decades of war and drone strikes. And you're still not approaching this as if real people these voters loved are being killed right now because of Biden's policy choices. It's not an assumption, it's evident in how flippant you are about them just letting it go.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

Still making assumptions, still no reason to bring the dictatorship home.