this post was submitted on 14 Jul 2023
42 points (97.7% liked)

Star Trek

10608 readers
67 users here now

r/startrek: The Next Generation

Star Trek news and discussion. No slash fic...

Maybe a little slash fic.


New to Star Trek and wondering where to start?


Rules

1 Be constructiveAll posts/comments must be thoughtful and balanced.


2 Be welcomingIt is important that everyone from newbies to OG Trekkers feel welcome, no matter their gender, sexual orientation, religion or race.


3 Be truthfulAll posts/comments must be factually accurate and verifiable. We are not a place for gossip, rumors, or manipulative or misleading content.


4 Be niceIf a polite way cannot be found to phrase what it is you want to say, don't say anything at all. Insulting or disparaging remarks about any human being are expressly not allowed.


5 SpoilersUtilize the spoiler system for any and all spoilers relating to the most recently-aired episodes, as well as previews for upcoming episodes. There is no formal spoiler protection for episodes/films after they have been available for approximately one week.


6 Keep on-topicAll submissions must be directly about the Star Trek franchise (the shows, movies, books etc.). Off-topic discussions are welcome at c/quarks.


7 MetaQuestions and concerns about moderator actions should be brought forward via DM.


Upcoming Episodes

Date Episode Title
11-21 LD 5x06 "Of Gods and Angles"
11-28 LD 5x07 "Fully Dilated"
12-05 LD 5x08 "Upper Decks"
12-12 LD 5x09 "Fissue Quest"
12-19 LD 5x10 "The New Next Generation"

Episode Discussion Archive


In Production

Strange New Worlds (2025)

Section 31 (2025-01-24)

Starfleet Academy (TBA)

In Development

Untitled comedy series


Wondering where to stream a series? Check here.


Allied Discord Server


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

For those who watched DS9 during its first airings, did it seem odd to you that Vic Fontaine/James Darren sang entire songs in the later seasons of DS9?

I only finished watching DS9 recently and just found it really odd. It seems out of place in the regular TNG/DS9 format, didn't drove the plotline forward, and sometimes felt just like a filler.

(I don't mean to be disrespectful, I like the character and the actor can sing well, I am just curious why the producers made that decision).

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not everything has to "drive the plot forward".

That's a very modern attitude to TV that stems from series only having ten odd hours to tell a full serialised story. When you're telling twenty plus episodic stories in the year, you have time to kick back and show stuff that isn't crucial to the story.

[–] the_sisko@startrek.website 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Yeah, having watched in release order (ish) and just recently finished Discovery & Picard, I feel this sentiment in my bones! For sure, I don't want the actors and writers to have to be worked to the bone churning out 26-episode seasons each year.

But it's also really frustrating how they insist that every 10 episode season, their characters must save the entire galaxy. There's no actual space to get to know the characters who aren't the main ones.

The Dominion war brewed for 3 seasons and then played out over 2 more. I think. That's a time scale that allows for amazing character development.

[–] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's why I love Strange New Worlds and Lower Decks at the moment. They've brought back the episodic take that made Trek work for five series.

Lower Decks is the most impressive. The fact that they manage to tell a full TNG era type story, with no characters feeling left out including the support cast, in half an hour a time is masterful.

[–] the_sisko@startrek.website 7 points 1 year ago

I just started SNW (like I said, release order ish, I was trying to save best for last). It's such a breath of fresh air! It's quite funny that they kept the "previously on" narration, but at least so far, it's mainly just doing character intros and not explaining the entirety of the season leading up to that point 😂

Fully agreed on Lower Decks!

[–] SoSquidTaste@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

Man can you imagine Nog and/or Rom getting half the character development that they got in DS9 in a contemporary show format?

Not saying it's all bad or all good one way or another, but your comment made me think back and totally appreciate those two fleshed out minor characters