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~500 comments about our instance and admins in the past week. Talk about needing to touch some grass...

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[–] shaytan@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 6 months ago (5 children)

It's honestly sad, almost to the point where defederating from them would be better

But I'm sure we'd be loosing good people from hexbear too

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Eh, I don't plan on defederating over such drama. They see some value in some of our users and we see some value in some of their users and we can ban the red-fash apologists and disinfo peddlers if they become a problem.

[–] Even_Adder@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I've never had a positive interaction with anyone on that instance.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I've had, but it's mostly outside of their areas, or with people who are not immediately closing ranks and arguing in bad faith. Just before I got banned I had someone praise me for being chill, so 🤷

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago

Most people on hexbear with any desire to participate in good faith will have other accounts elsewhere, Hexbear is already isolated as can be so multiple accounts is basically required for them to participate on the rest of the Fediverse. Shouldn't feel too bad about cutting off their Hexbear accounts since they almost certainly have others.

[–] trafficnab@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 months ago

My instance is defederated with them, and most of the (politically) negative interactions I've had with people from other instances, I check hexbear, and so far 100% of the time they have an account with the same name there

[–] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I had to join a defederated server after the mods sent hexbear users my way to harass he after a I reported users for harassment....

As someone no longer part of their drama, yall should defederate.

[–] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

I thought users could individually block comms now. For example i tried blocking lemmy.world and while that was in place i didn't see comments from there. Is this not the case for you?

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You can block an instance, but not all users from that instance. It’s essentially a “don’t see this instances posts” option.

[–] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Oh. I saw a ton of hidden comments i could not view when i blocked .world (cuz of facebook, not the lovely commenters). I thought that was because i blocked the comm they were coming from.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Could be your client doing that actually, but it’s not a Lemmy feature.

[–] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I just use a browser. I dunno if it varies by insurance but it is a Lemmy feature not client-side

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Sorry, to be clear I meant “block this instance” is a Lemmy feature, but “block users from a blocked instance” is likely client side. And to be clear, the web front ends are also clients. Many of them are non standard.

If you look at the description of the instance blocking, it says it doesn’t block users.

Didn’t mean to confuse things, I should have been more clear.

Ah yes i see. I'm out of my depth when it comes to the tech side of how this all works clearly. I also admit my experience was just from a end-user perspective and not like, scientific. Youre saying i am incorrect in my belief that blocking instances blocks comments from that instance? If that is the case i will look back into blocking the instance itself because blocking the users was not my intent

[–] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

It definitly wasnt at the time

[–] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I think it is a recent development, in the last few months. Have a look in your settings if you haven't yet, should be an option now

[–] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago

We've been at the point where defederating would have been better for months.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago

But I’m sure we’d be loosing good people from hexbear too

Not really, the good people will just make accounts elsewhere and start using those accounts to interact here and on the rest of the fediverse, most of the good ones already do that because hexbear is already very isolated by virtue of the fact they're using whitelist federation and also the fact that they already have been defederated for the spam, trolling, and harassment their less savory members bring about (and more importantly the fact that it is unpunished by their instance's moderators if not encouraged).