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[–] ZetaLightning94@lemmy.world 32 points 6 months ago (3 children)

With how china keeps implanting everything with spyware, I agree to keep them away from the heavy tech incorporated cars. Really wish we could transition away from using chinese shit

[–] Hildegarde@lemmy.world 49 points 6 months ago (2 children)

All auto manufacturers put spyware in their cars now. This isn't a china problem, this is an everyone problem. We need anti-spyware laws that apply to everyone.

[–] ZetaLightning94@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I agree, but in the meantime lets not make it that easy...

[–] BigFatNips@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 months ago

It's that easy. They can and do already buy most of that data from American companies anyways.

[–] spyd3r@sh.itjust.works -1 points 6 months ago

Rip all the computer shit out of your car and slap a carburetor on it, problem solved.

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 5 points 6 months ago

The Tariff is actually against Steel and Aluminium heavily subsidized by the CCP and flooding the market. At no point in Biden's speech did he talk about EVs or electronics.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Oh? More spyware than GM selling your data to your insurance company? More spyware than all of the stuff your smartphone collects?

It's absolutely a bad faith argument to say we can't have Chinese cars because they conduct industry standard data scraping.

[–] CriticalMiss@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The whataboutism doesn’t help. It’s a wrong practice regardless of nationality. But since the house and senate is bought by the corporations, at the very least ban those who you can.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's not a whataboutism when that's the other choice. This isn't out of left field. I can buy Chinese data scraping, Japanese data scraping, Korean data scraping, German data scraping, or American data scraping.

Right now Germany actually wins that contest because GDPR just might have an impact.

A whataboutism would be me talking about American labor practices in farming. Not great, but also not relevant.

[–] Silentiea@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I agree. If this were actually addressing the problem in question (bad faith actors harvesting data) then sure, but it isn't really because the other options are still suffering from the same problem. If anything, this entire discussion is a whataboutism to avoid talking about how more electric cars lets us phase out the ice ones.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

I wasn't going to go there because projection is, unfortunately, very effective at making the other party look immature when they correctly call you on it. But yes the entire discussion of data harvesting is a whataboutism. It's not relevant unless someone stops doing it.