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Sovcit sent in a "payment", T Mobile doesn't think so. (lemmy.world)

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[–] eee@lemm.ee 13 points 4 months ago (2 children)

what are they trying to pay with here?

[–] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 47 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The version of sovcit... ideology? lore? that I've seen goes something like:

Because reasons, any time a US citizen gives birth, the US government is obligated to open a bank account at the federal reserve with $1 million in it, and keep paying interest into these accounts over time
However, the way the law is worded only "natural persons" are allowed to access their account, and by signing your birth certificate you are actually a "corporate entity", not a person
If you do these things and fill out these forms with these exact words and file them in this exact way and sign it with a blood fingerprint you can declare yourself not a corporate entity but a natural person, and access your account
The federal reserve won't just let you withdraw cash from your account, but if you send a letter to someone who you owe a debt with this specific language on it, they can forward that to the federal reserve who will pay the debt on your behalf

Obviously this is all nonsense.

I'm imagining they are trying to pay their phone bill with one of these magic letters, and is surprised that whatever under paid corporate drone is running the collections team at T Mobile isn't in on the super secret conspiracy that only they are smart enough to uncover

[–] eee@lemm.ee 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

ok your post was so incredulous that i went down a bit of a rabbit hole here... jesus i don't know whether to laugh or cry at everything.

good summary btw. and the craziness goes even further... my favorite bit of "lore" is the fact that sovcits who operate a motor vehicle for non-commercial purposes can claim to be "traveling" rather than "driving" and therefore do not need a valid drivers' license or valid plates on their car. MY SIDES

[–] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Someone once tried to explain the plot of Kingdom Hearts to me and my brain short circuited in the same way.

It's kinda the perfect scam, you can sell people the secret knowledge (and obviously you need cash rather than one of these magic letters cos the government can track the magic letters), and if your rube tries it and it obviously doesn't work then they must have done it wrong and you need to do this other thing to undo that thing and on and on.

It's also not just a US thing, it's popped up all over the world, especially in places with an indigenous people - that one I can understand the motivation on a bit better, "fuck the government you can't control me your authority is derived from colonial violence" rather than "I don't want to pay taxes but also want to live in a society"

[–] elvith@feddit.de 4 points 4 months ago

Magic words